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Old 07-11-2009, 01:41 PM     Post subject: AK - i folded the flop and wondered why. #1 (permalink)  
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 MP2 is some friday night deadwood - playing every ace so im not worried.
BTN has been relatively quiet but i still playing too many hands.
This whole spot sucks, is folding the best play or should i be thinking about committing/calling etc.

Fold>raise>call??

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, A
1 fold, Hero bets $2, MP2 calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.75) 9, J, A (3 players)
Hero bets $5.50, MP2 raises $11, Button calls $11, Hero?? (would be shoving his chips in if this were live!)
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Old 07-11-2009, 02:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 i can't ever fold here, leak?

call>raise=fold seems about right.

I'd like to know some more about villains though, especially stuff like fold-to-cbet/Aggression Frequencies and general stats that allow me to slot them into some sort of profile

Really, button can have QT/8T/Ax/weak FDs/almost anything here. MP2 depends so much on stuff we don't know, but if you're not worried about his raise then how do you fold?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 07-11-2009, 06:41 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Im looking at BTNs range - sets/Top two/Flush draws (possibly AQ/AK too?)

If i raise to try and put him on a range - hes only committing when im beat - and any sort of raise from me commits me to the pot.

Calling leaves me playing blind OOP with a one pair hand -0 that spot just sucks - i dont believe calling is an option - all decisions on later streets are difficult and will be for lots of money

Folding is easy - but if i feel i have the ebst hand here then its bad. I also think i will find better spots to commit lots of chips, here its at best 50/50 IMO

Worst bit- no HUD stats (but to help MP2 is 50/14 over 30 hands and BTN is 20/10 over about 150)
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:51 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hard to fold on the flop for sure,but there's a lot of scare cards on the turn that the options of calling is kinda spewy,and we defitenely cant go to showdown easily or go for value.

Over 150 hands-20/10 stats is pretty nice,but seriously-BTN Calling the min raise on the flop?What can he have that we beat or get 50/50 with?
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