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Old 01-05-2005, 03:13 PM     Post subject: AK hits on turn but is it enough? #1 (permalink)  
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Questions for discussion:
Is opp's cheesy-ass bet on the flop a flush draw, or overcards?

Very interested in your take on the river bet. It's the right amount, I think, so that worse overcards will call, but a raise there will indicate a 5, or a (suckout) flush.


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BB ($2.96)
UTG ($2.87)
MP1 ($2.49)
MP2 ($2)
CO ($4.45)
Button ($0.64)
Hero ($2.11)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A. MP2 posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.02, MP1 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, CO folds, Button calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.1, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls $0.08, Button calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.34) 5, 5, 9
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.08, Button calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08.

Turn: ($0.58) K
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.1, Button calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.48, MP2 calls $0.38, Button calls $0.36 (All-In).

River: ($2) 8
[Hero bets $0.44, MP2 calls $0.44.

Final Pot: $2.88
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think you should have bet out on the flop to find out where you stood, maybe you could have folded to a raise??

The turn bet again could have the guy on trips, but yeah I think the raise was OK, I'm baffled that he only called so that justifies your river bet aswell.

I think the only problem with this hand is the check/call on the flop, definitely should have bet out to get information.

By the way, I put MP2 on trips. Button could have made his flush, but I'm not really sure about that.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by dwarfman1990
I think the only problem with this hand is the check/call on the flop, definitely should have bet out to get information.
Yeah, i'm with you sorta. With a bet 1/4 the size of the pot, though, I think I have enough info to proceed, though. It's a flush draw (Which I'm not beating), overcards (which I'm tying), or a trap (which I'm not falling into)

So I'm looking for an A or K -- not of clubs -- to open this up on the turn. Otherwise I'm gone.

Got exactly what I want, and am now definitely in the lead against all but the trap. And opp bets
1/6 the pot
?!?!?!

Opp is giving proper odds to any flush draw that might be out. Admittedly, most players at this level don't make that calculation.

Well, opp giveth proper odds and LeFou taketh away. The boat would definitely reraise me on the turn (don't you think), and the flush draw couldn't justifiably call it, so my river bet is pure salesmanship IMO.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:48 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Opp is giving proper odds to any flush draw that might be out. Admittedly, most players at this level don't make that calculation.
Exactly, it's hard to talk about players considering pot odds at .01/.02 NL, I assume players are just going to keep betting the same with trips or anything, its hard to put them on a hand.
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:47 PM #5 (permalink)  
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on the turn though, after your re-raise his pot odds for the flush draw are not good anymore, he's putting in 38c / 126c ~ 30% and the flush draw at that time is what 19.6% or something correct... unless he blatantly assumes the other guy will call after him
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
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on the turn though, after your re-raise his pot odds for the flush draw are not good anymore,
Yeah, isn't that what i said?

This one came out kinda ugly. the guy who went all in was on the flush draw and made it
The other guy had what I thought -- weaker overcards (KQ) -- and i got the side pot.
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