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Old 12-09-2006, 08:21 PM     Post subject: AJ. UTG #1 (permalink)  
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there was a time where i used to fold AJ under the gun but my game has changed and now i'll raise with it to 4xbb (plus 1xbb for every limper). i make this bet in any position if there hasn't been a raise.

the hand before this i raised with AK and everybody folded.
i don't have any stats on my opponents.

Seat 1: gcstyle x ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: MazMatt ($33.65 in chips)
Seat 3: toesemikkel ($33.70 in chips)
Seat 4: 50Aln50 ($42.05 in chips)
Seat 5: anewparadigm ($39.95 in chips)
Seat 6: blackemma ($2.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr Esposito ($12.55 in chips)
Seat 8: _Arcticair_ ($26 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero [AC,JS] ($23.70 in chips)
Seat 10: Jon_Paul ($19.65 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
Mr Esposito posts blind ($0.15), _Arcticair_ posts blind ($0.25), gcstyle x posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
Hero bets $1.25, Jon_Paul calls $1.25, gcstyle x folds, MazMatt folds, toesemikkel folds, 50Aln50 calls $1.25, anewparadigm folds, blackemma calls $1.25, Mr Esposito calls $1.10, _Arcticair_ folds.

FLOP [board cards 2S,AD,3D ]
Mr Esposito checks, Hero bets $4, Jon_Paul bets $8, 50Aln50 folds, blackemma calls $1.65 and is all-in, Mr Esposito folds, Hero?Hero folds.

TURN [board cards 2S,AD,3D,4C ]


RIVER [board cards 2S,AD,3D,4C,4D ]


SHOWDOWN
Jon_Paul shows [ JD,10D ]
blackemma mucks cards [ AH,KD ]
Jon_Paul wins $8.70, Jon_Paul wins $11.20.



SUMMARY
Dealer: blackemma
Pot: $20.40, (including rake: $0.50)
gcstyle x, loses $0.25
MazMatt, loses $0
toesemikkel, loses $0
50Aln50, loses $1.25
anewparadigm, loses $0
blackemma, loses $2.90
Mr Esposito, loses $1.25
_Arcticair_, loses $0.25
Hero, loses $5.25
Jon_Paul, bets $9.25, collects $19.90, net $10.65


What do you think?
First of all, is my preflop play a bit loose? What are the alternatives to my play preflop?
Second, what do you think of my postflop play? I'm in a tough spot. There are a lot of players in the hand an I don't know how good my hand is. Players could easily have AK or AQ but if I check players drawing a free card. Also, a fish might think that his AT is a great hand and if I don't bet it will be difficult to know where I'm at. If I raise and then get reraised I know I'm beat (most of the time). Did I bet a bit too much on the flop?
What do you do on that flop?

I think I might have had more callers because I had raised the hand before. And it is impossible for a player to get 2 good hands in a row. lol. sarcasm
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Preflop i open UTG with AJ. When i hit the ace i tend to checkcall the flop and lead the turn which underreps my hand but gives better hands a chance to declare themselves and looks pretty scray to Ax hands behind.
There are times when i c/r here and fold to a 3bet/push but that bloats the pot so i want to show this hand down a lot without playing a big pot.
As played, its a definite three bet i think.
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Preflop i open UTG with AJ. When i hit the ace i tend to checkcall the flop and lead the turn which underreps my hand but gives better hands a chance to declare themselves and looks pretty scray to Ax hands behind.
There are times when i c/r here and fold to a 3bet/push but that bloats the pot so i want to show this hand down a lot without playing a big pot.
As played, its a definite three bet i think.
really? you think i should reraise here?
doesn't my opponents raise tell me enough? if do put in a raise i'm basically allin?
players might be raising their draws at higher levels. but at 25NL they rarely raise with a draw. they usually just flat call. if he had Ax I think most players also flat call. If he has AQ or AK he might decide to raise me here.
I think his most likely hand here is AK, AQ or 2 pair or better
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Preflop i open UTG with AJ. When i hit the ace i tend to checkcall the flop and lead the turn which underreps my hand but gives better hands a chance to declare themselves and looks pretty scray to Ax hands behind.
There are times when i c/r here and fold to a 3bet/push but that bloats the pot so i want to show this hand down a lot without playing a big pot.
As played, its a definite three bet i think.
really? you think i should reraise here?
doesn't my opponents raise tell me enough? if do put in a raise i'm basically allin?
players might be raising their draws at higher levels. but at 25NL they rarely raise with a draw. they usually just flat call. if he had Ax I think most players also flat call. If he has AQ or AK he might decide to raise me here.
I think his most likely hand here is AK, AQ or 2 pair or better
on thsi board, calling/folding is absurd IMO. Miniraise looks like a flush draw to me. If you 3bet you can fold to a push if opp is only pushing a better hand.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:19 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Preflop i open UTG with AJ. When i hit the ace i tend to checkcall the flop and lead the turn which underreps my hand but gives better hands a chance to declare themselves and looks pretty scray to Ax hands behind.
There are times when i c/r here and fold to a 3bet/push but that bloats the pot so i want to show this hand down a lot without playing a big pot.
As played, its a definite three bet i think.
really? you think i should reraise here?
doesn't my opponents raise tell me enough? if do put in a raise i'm basically allin?
players might be raising their draws at higher levels. but at 25NL they rarely raise with a draw. they usually just flat call. if he had Ax I think most players also flat call. If he has AQ or AK he might decide to raise me here.
I think his most likely hand here is AK, AQ or 2 pair or better
on thsi board, calling/folding is absurd IMO. Miniraise looks like a flush draw to me. If you 3bet you can fold to a push if opp is only pushing a better hand.
If i min raise him I'll have $10.50 left in my stack. How can I fold to a reraise here if I wasn't going to the first time round?
There is no way my opponent is folding now since he has committed so much to the pot and doesn't have that much more left.
He might even 4 bet me when i raise since his money is committed anyway.
I think my option here is to put my all my money in or just fold.
The main pot is capped because the small stack is allin btw.
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Preflop i open UTG with AJ. When i hit the ace i tend to checkcall the flop and lead the turn which underreps my hand but gives better hands a chance to declare themselves and looks pretty scray to Ax hands behind.
There are times when i c/r here and fold to a 3bet/push but that bloats the pot so i want to show this hand down a lot without playing a big pot.
As played, its a definite three bet i think.
really? you think i should reraise here?
doesn't my opponents raise tell me enough? if do put in a raise i'm basically allin?
players might be raising their draws at higher levels. but at 25NL they rarely raise with a draw. they usually just flat call. if he had Ax I think most players also flat call. If he has AQ or AK he might decide to raise me here.
I think his most likely hand here is AK, AQ or 2 pair or better
on thsi board, calling/folding is absurd IMO. Miniraise looks like a flush draw to me. If you 3bet you can fold to a push if opp is only pushing a better hand.
If i min raise him I'll have $10.50 left in my stack. How can I fold to a reraise here if I wasn't going to the first time round?
There is no way my opponent is folding now since he has committed so much to the pot and doesn't have that much more left.
He might even 4 bet me when i raise since his money is committed anyway.
I think my option here is to put my all my money in or just fold.
The main pot is capped because the small stack is allin btw.
in that case you need to know what your opponent is porbably doing here. At these stakes id assume its a flush draw and 3bet all in and be happy im not spewing too much; i should know who the table rock is that miniraises his sets on a disgustingly draw heavy board so that i can find a fold.
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if i raise AJ utg, which i almost never do, im rarely leading an A-high flop where I don't have have top two. I will lead jack high flops and missed /2nd pair flops but i almost always c/c flops like this.
that said, i dont usually face 5 way traffic when i raise 5xbb utg so i think bet/folding is probably the best line here. no way i stack off without previous displays off donkishness by the minraiser.
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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if i raise AJ utg, which i almost never do, im rarely leading an A-high flop where I don't have have top two. I will lead jack high flops and missed /2nd pair flops but i almost always c/c flops like this.
that said, i dont usually face 5 way traffic when i raise 5xbb utg so i think bet/folding is probably the best line here. no way i stack off without previous displays off donkishness by the minraiser.
that's what i like to here Will.

how do you play AJ UTG 10 handed? do you just limp it? what hands will you raise UTG?
Also, at these tables with so many limpers, would you raise AJ UTG? If you limp in, you will usually get 3 or 4 callers behind you and then you really need to hit the flop hard to win the hand
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