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Old 07-24-2008, 11:57 PM     Post subject: aj c-bet then hit tptk on turn - play> #1 (permalink)  
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 vs a 30-20 type who is incredibly passive post flop and folds to flop bets most times he gets a chance - turn play?
if i bet and he calls, what is my river play?
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BB ($25.65)
UTG ($129.05)
Hero ($116.45)
MP1 ($153.50)
MP2 ($38.80)
CO ($246.60)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 3 folds, Button calls $3.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($8.50) 4, 5, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) J (2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 07-25-2008, 12:17 AM #2 (permalink)  
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sample size on fold to cbet? I'm pretty much always going for 3 streets of value vs. a 30/20 unless I have a really solid postflp read
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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id bet 15 and fold to a raise. In relation to the river is he passive enough to just check call two streets with a set/2pair etc or play kk,aa this way. If not id lean towards betting a safe river f0 something between 25-30. If he as a strong tendency to play strong hands like this very passively id just check behind river unless i made trips or an ace fell, very read dependent.

edit: realise we are actually oop to checking behind is impossible.
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id just check behind river unless i made trips or an ace fell.
gl with that.
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id just check behind river unless i made trips or an ace fell.
gl with that.
Instead of taking my quote out of context why dont you put it with what I said beforehand. Im not sayin id check behind the river any predetermined amount of the time, but if i had a read he slowplayed or only called down 3 barrels with the goods i might consider checking.
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sorry i just meant that we are OOP and so checking behind is not going to happen
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BET Turn, play river.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:41 AM #8 (permalink)  
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ooo yeah lol, my bad, not fully concentrating
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:18 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 ok, so i'm not pot-committed by any stretch of the imagination. I don't feel like I'm ahead all that often either.
Check-call a bet up to $35?
Block bet to like $20, fold to a big raise?

Turn: ($20.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14.

River: ($48.50) K (2 players)
Hero ???
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 07-25-2008, 02:50 AM #10 (permalink)  
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b/f 16 on the turn.
c/f river. i think with a bet you are valuetowning yourself more often than not. and hes probably gonna check behind 9x tt which is unliky for him to call a bet with anyway. so i dont think your missing that much value by not betting. plus i dont think if you check he will valuebet worse.
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