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Old 04-11-2010, 11:40 AM     Post subject: AJ on A22, line check #1 (permalink)  
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Opp is 26/10 over less than 100 hands, haven't seen him raise a cbet before, but again the sample size is way too small. His postflop AF is 3.1, i believe he's never bluffing, but could he vbet worse? Can I fold on the flop or turn?



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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, A
4 folds, Hero bets $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 2, 2, A (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button raises to $30, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($77) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $30, Hero calls $30

River: ($137) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $100, Hero folds

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Old 04-11-2010, 03:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 If I don't think he's ever bluffing on the flop, I'd fold right there. It seems like every time a random player raises tpnk on Axx it's a minraise. 3x is either AK, 2x or a bluff.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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, i believe he's never bluffing
Why? If you don't think he plays a FD this way then fold flop/turn.

Having got to the river I call all day. Is a 26/10 really betting 3/4 pot on a 4-straight board with AQ/AK?
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I think I would call the river.
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 I'm not a 20/10, but I would consider that river a total blank for my AK.
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 he won't value bet it, as least not this size
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I don't think that you should assume a random 26/10 can handread well. I guess this could be AK sometimes, but not often, and AQ very rarely. How many 2s can you put in his range? I actually think this is a bluff most of the the time, let alone the 30%ish we need to make a profitable call.
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 We like never have a straight, or 2x, so AK shouldbe fine with having the best hand and vbetting.

I think it's a bit of a strange line to raise this flop with AQ/AK in villain's shoes due to so many hands we would be folding that we might put another bet in with on future streets.

Not sure what the best line is though.
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We like never have a straight, or 2x, so AK shouldbe fine with having the best hand and vbetting.
villain can't handread!! Scary board + 1 pair =/= 3/4 pot vbet.

obv this is not always gonna be right but i don't think he's got AQ/AK much and there aren't many 2s he can have. There are loads of FDs that he can have and they make a lot of sense with this betsizing. Hand is played great if you call river.
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 Well i'm going to come clean here and say I check this flop. It lets him bluff, there aren't too many cards we're scared of and getting raised sucks. If he checks behind we can confidently v-bet most all turns/rivers.

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Well i'm going to come clean here and say I check this flop. It lets him bluff, there aren't too many cards we're scared of and getting raised sucks. If he checks behind we can confidently v-bet most all turns/rivers.

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I think it's fine some % of the time.
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 I hate checking this particular flop, because your range is exactly that. Check flop, bet turn and river looks soooo strong.
If it was A9T, AK2 I agree that checking is sometimes best.
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