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LeFou
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11-08-2005, 09:25 PM
Post subject: again with the limp reraise issue
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4-of-a-Kind
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100 NL
Me: QQ UTG+1
UTG limps, I make it $4, he pushes AI for 12.
Reads: These people suck. That's my read. These people suck and push at stupid times and catch cards and win and it's bullshit.
I don't think i need to post the results. I want to know if you guys are automatically laying down to the limp-reraise (assuming, of course, you don't have aces or kings yourself)
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edudlive
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I call and happily race.
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(16:02:25) Fleece: u think ur liked now?
(16:02:31) Fleece: that u got real life friends
(16:02:48) Fleece: enjoy ur real life friends
(16:03:08) Fleece: ur e-friends dont wanna knwo about u anymore
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Fnord
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I call here with AK/AQs/TT maybe 99/AQ
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STIdrivr
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well he doesnt have too much so u cant mess up too bad, i guess i call a hope
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EricE
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Hmmm. I have laid this down a couple of times over the last week. Maybe I should call and see what they hold.
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Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
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Humphrind
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Oh Geez, you fold everytime.
(being different and wrong doesn't feel that good. Go ahead and call)
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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sejje
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I sure as hell don't fold queens there.
I'd fold 77 or lower I think. With more behind, this is a totally different question.
I give short stacks next to zero respect.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sejje
I give short stacks next to zero respect.
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...and type GAMB000000L! when I call.
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Lukie
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Easy call.. you have QQ facing an AI reraise from a person who only had a 12BB stack.. you are also getting better then 2:1 here.
I think some people here need to give short stacks (maybe not THIS short) more respect though.. but that's easily a whole discussion in itself.
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sejje
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If I was playing against one of these short-stack masters, I would. But against some moron who lost the rest, or some other moron who buys in at $10 at 50NL, nope.
Maybe it's -EV at times, I don't know.
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Muxy
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Um push or call.
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Fleece
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short stacks are always wimps who cant get any sex. they sux at life so double him up so he can feed his family and flick a coin around the house like ur paying a hooker when u call.
NOOOO RESPECT!!!
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Aces
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Fold for $8 w/QQ to a small stack you've read as fishy? No way.
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LeFou
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Originally Posted by Aces
Fold for $8 w/QQ to a small stack you've read as fishy? No way.
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I think it's interesting how the way one describes the act changes the decision.
Folding for $8 w/QQ sounds bad.
Folding to an UTG all-in limp-reraise doesn't... at least, it doesn't sound as bad
BTW I went ahead and called it. Opp was dominated. Amazing the stuff you see sometimes.
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ProZachNation
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Really similar to what happened last nite when I was pushing a small stack around.
He flipped T8o I flipped my QQ...
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Originally Posted by mrhappy333
I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
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Aces
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by LeFou
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Originally Posted by Aces
Fold for $8 w/QQ to a small stack you've read as fishy? No way.
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I think it's interesting how the way one describes the act changes the decision.
Folding for $8 w/QQ sounds bad.
Folding to an UTG all-in limp-reraise doesn't... at least, it doesn't sound as bad
BTW I went ahead and called it. Opp was dominated. Amazing the stuff you see sometimes. |
Well you do gotta consider what their stack is. If they raise all-in with $35 - easy fold. Not sure exactly where I draw the line, but you get the idea. Also short-stack is more often then not either fish-man or guy-on-tilt man who has lost a bunch at this table(which you should know if you've been there awhile). I just don't see that many good players sitting at $100NL w 12 bucks. If they were decent they would rebuy long before that point(unless their playing the short-stack strategy). Sure they could have picked up AA/KK.AK but overall I think it is way +EV to call unless you have a very good reason/read not to.
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UG
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INSTACALL.
The dude only has $12 in his stack...I'm not sure where you're playing, but I see the shortstackies pushing 55-AA and A6-AK here. I happily call (maybe even reraise to $20+ to isolate if there are other players in the hand yet to act).
You will win this the majority of the time. Instacall.
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