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VidaliaCID230
Old 03-04-2005, 01:27 PM     Post subject: Advice for some key loses that ate into my bankroll. #1 (permalink)  

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Hand 700178724, Started at 3/3/2005 8:01 PM
Table 'Lissabon': $0.25-$0.50 No Limit Texas Hold'em (Real Money)
Seat 1: vodka7 ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 2: dankwon ($27.80 in chips)
Seat 3: trevalex ($6.30 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 5: MrSupidity ($9.05 in chips)
Seat 6: VidaliaCID ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: GoBlue34 ($49.80 in chips)
Seat 8: bndcksnts260 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 9: hattkaill ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 10: E.Cantona7 ($28.95 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to VidaliaCID: Qd
Dealt to VidaliaCID: Jc
MrSupidity : Post Blind ($0.25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
VidaliaCID : Call ($0.25)
GoBlue34 : Call ($0.25)
bndcksnts260 : Call ($0.25)
hattkaill : Call ($0.25)
E.Cantona7 : Fold
vodka7 : Fold
dankwon : Fold
trevalex : Call ($0.25)
MrSupidity : Check
*** Flop *** : 4d Jh 6s
MrSupidity : Check
VidaliaCID : Bet ($1.00)
GoBlue34 : Fold
bndcksnts260 : Fold
hattkaill : Fold
trevalex : Call ($1.00)
MrSupidity : Fold
*** Turn *** : [ 4d Jh 6s ] Qs
VidaliaCID : Check
trevalex : Check
*** River *** : [ 4d Jh 6s Qs ] 3d
VidaliaCID : Bet ($2.00)
trevalex : Raise ($5.55)
trevalex : All In
VidaliaCID : Call ($3.55)
*** Showdown *** : [ 4d Jh 6s Qs 3d ]
trevalex : Show Cards [ 2d 5d ]
VidaliaCID : Show Cards [ Qd Jc ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $13.90 | Rake: $0.70
Board: [ 4d Jh 6s Qs 3d ]
vodka7 lost $0.00
dankwon lost $0.00
trevalex bet $6.80, collected $13.90, net $7.10 Shows [ 2d 5d ] (a straight, six high.)
MrSupidity lost $0.25
VidaliaCID lost $6.80 Shows [ Qd Jc ] (two pairs, Queens and Jacks.)
GoBlue34 lost $0.25
bndcksnts260 lost $0.25
hattkaill lost $0.25
E.Cantona7 lost $0.00

IN RETROSPECT I THINK I SHOULD HAVE BET MORE AFTER FLOPPING TOP PAIR.... AND SHOULD NOT HAVE SLOWED PLAYED AFTER HITTING THE Q.... I GOT TOO EXCITED AND COULDN'T LAY DOWN THE CARDS AFTER BEING RAISED AFTER THE RIVER.....

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Old 03-04-2005, 01:35 PM #2 (permalink)  
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In retrospect I think u should have folded QJo UTG.

If u really wanted to play this hand in this position, I think u have to open for a raise and show some strength.
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Fold QJo UTG!

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If I had been raised I would have been out.... fold even if I could get in for the BB?
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 i like calling that, especially if you know you won't get raised which is likely at your tables. but, definitely bet the flop and the turn, bet both of them strongly.

my logic for calling with qj is: its unlikely you'll get raised. if you do get raised, fold it. people would raise preflop aq/aj. only real hand you're worried about with no preflop raises is kj or kq, but just evaluate by how people play if you think you're beat just like any other hand.
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 that's just my personal opinion on qjo btw, i really need to get pokertracker to see if i make money on it or not. i feel like i do but i hear people say its a - dollars hand.
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I cried when I saw the turn.

Stop checking good hands against opponents that call/raise with shitty hands. Also, consider how being out of position made this hand harder to play.
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that's just my personal opinion on qjo btw, i really need to get PokerTracker to see if i make money on it or not. i feel like i do but i hear people say its a - dollars hand.
I'll give you mine:

Cumulatively, over 100 hands (yeah, pretty small sample, but that's 100 hands holding QJ) it's basically evened out. -$5, but one solid hit will put it into the positive range.

By position, however, it's quite different:
On the button through 2 places off the button, I've netted +$30 with QJ. Mid position almost (not quite) breaks even. Early position is down $20 or so, and blinds are break even.
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You should of just bet on the turn. I had that happen to me when i hit a set on the turn didnt bet and paid for it dearly
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