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daven
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02-06-2009, 06:04 AM
Post subject: aces slowly vs good lag 100nl
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villain is jennys_mom, a decent winning reg at 100nl and 200nl, also 400nl i think.
17-15 and 8% 3-bet over 2k hands at 100nl, read is that villain grabs weakness and is super-aggressive.
villain likely perceives me as tilt-prone and a bit weak (i.e. fold too easily), also aggressive, with very standard lines in 3-bet situations preflop
Given reads, is this line pretty standard? I'm insta-checking flop and turn, calling pre and on flop after a few seconds pause
a pre-flop 3-bet would fold most of villain's range, and reads mean i'm pretty happy stacking off on most flops if required.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (MP1) ($150.80)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($100)
Button ($128.05)
SB ($155.25)
BB ($100)
UTG ($112.90)
UTG+1 ($36.35)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , A
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $8.50
Flop: ($25.50) 9 , 9 , 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero calls $15
Turn: ($55.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $73 (All-In), Hero calls $73
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bigspenda73
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lulz well he obv. has air on the turn
big debate on how to play the turn in this spot on FTR lately. Against this guy I like checking and letting him attempt to continue with a bluff.
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elipsesjeff
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Postflop seems pretty standard but you should be 4bet bluffing him when he reraises you so I'd use that to merge AA into my 4betting range preflop.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Postflop seems pretty standard but you should be 4bet bluffing him when he reraises you so I'd use that to merge AA into my 4betting range preflop.
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+1.
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Parasurama
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Postflop seems pretty standard but you should be 4bet bluffing him when he reraises you so I'd use that to merge AA into my 4betting range preflop.
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I agree with this but why does it seem that people never 4bet KK?
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Deanglow
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yeah you should be 4bet bluffing but I don't think this situation calls for it. nice hand imo
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Miffed22001
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like the whole plan - but id prefer the 4bet yada as above vs a LAGG - id use this line against an aggro TAGG
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
yeah you should be 4bet bluffing but I don't think this situation calls for it. nice hand imo
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yeah i mean if there is no 3/4bet history then this is better imo especially as daven is a little bit nitty I think...?
He's just going to fold the vast majority of his 3bet range if we 4bet and if we call he'll probs cbet far too big with 100% of his range and double barrel too often, as well as vtowning himself with KK. This line exploits all of those possible leaks.
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daven
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Originally Posted by badgers
especially as daven is a little bit nitty I think...?
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touche, but you have a point. I'm working on loosening up though, learning heaps by doing so. Went too far for a while (18-14 = not for me in Full Ring). Funny, the HUD-bots with loads of history on me may start getting confused soon.
Year to date I'm running 16-12 with 4% 3-bet, 31% steal, 60% fold to 3-bet, and 10% 4-bet. About the level of nittiness I like.
I'm still probably a little too nitty post-flop though
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