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Old 08-11-2005, 05:03 AM     Post subject: ACES... CALL OR FOLD HERE??? #1 (permalink)  

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PokerStars Game #2311903619: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/08/11 - 00:53:21 (ET)
Table 'Hesperia IV' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: chapelizod ($67 in chips)
Seat 2: mcmullin3 ($99.35 in chips)
Seat 3: SXICHIN ($47.55 in chips)
Seat 4: SrBocce ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 5: akslcv ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 6: nazz5000 ($187.30 in chips)
Seat 7: justtocol ($91.50 in chips)
Seat 8: mfreenet7 ($56.10 in chips)
Seat 9: PokerPanda ($112.45 in chips)
mcmullin3: posts small blind $0.50
SXICHIN: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to justtocol [Ac As]
SrBocce: calls $1
akslcv: folds
nazz5000: folds
justtocol: raises $3 to $4
mfreenet7: folds
PokerPanda: folds
chapelizod: folds
mcmullin3: folds
SXICHIN: calls $3
SrBocce: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [5d 8c 6c]
SXICHIN: checks
SrBocce: checks
justtocol: bets $7
SXICHIN: calls $7
SrBocce: raises $17.15 to $24.15 and is all-in
justtocol: calls $17.15
SXICHIN: calls $17.15
*** TURN *** [5d 8c 6c] [9d]
SXICHIN: checks
justtocol: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 8c 6c 9d] [Kh]
SXICHIN: bets $19.40 and is all-in
justtocol: ?????

What would you do and why?
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't have called the first all in. You're beat by either a straight, or 2 pair, possible trips. One of them could have been on a flush draw, maybe even both of them, but it's not worth the money. If you won this hand, you must have had great reads on these people.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:03 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You gotta call. It's a $65 dollar pot, and he's asking for $20 more. The probability of the first guy straightening diminishes the chance that the remaining opponent has one too. It's a tough one.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:20 PM     Post subject: Re: ACES... CALL OR FOLD HERE??? #4 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotter

*** FLOP *** [5d 8c 6c]
SXICHIN: checks
SrBocce: checks
justtocol: bets $7
SXICHIN: calls $7
SrBocce: raises $17.15 to $24.15 and is all-in
justtocol: calls $17.15
SXICHIN: calls $17.15
Right here, I would not flat call the all-in. That just invites SXICHIN to call as well. Either you're beat already, or SXICHIN is drawing. There is no card that is going to help you on the turn or the river (except for an Ace). Make it as expensive as possible for draws. Punish them for playing draws.

Conversely, if you think you are beat here, then fold. But IMHO,you want unimproved Aces headsup, not multiway!! Fold or push are your two choices.
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:29 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 sxchin has 20 bucks left, put him all-in on the flop. i'm not even hesitating on this one.
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I put sexichin on top pair when he called the all also. He was a loose player. When the king hit on the river and he instantly went all in I was almost certain he had two pair. So I laid the aces down. He turned up KQc and won the pot with a pair of kings. Oh well.
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 you had him on king 8? a word of advice for the future: never put someone on king 8.
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