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BIGandRICH
Old 10-03-2005, 05:10 PM     Post subject: AARGH #1 (permalink)  
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any way to get away from this??

POKERSTARS GAME #2717457964: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/10/03 - 12:53:46 (ET)
Table 'Algebar' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 123JORGE123 ($44.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Vallhall ($144.05 in chips)
Seat 3: OFFSUITJ/2 ($133.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Scott Owen ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: 18daddy ($54.60 in chips)
Seat 6: daBigZib ($36.40 in chips)
OFFSUITJ/2: posts small blind $0.50
Scott Owen: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [Jh Qs]
18daddy: folds
daBigZib: calls $1
123JORGE123: folds
Vallhall: folds
OFFSUITJ/2: calls $0.50
Scott Owen: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 8d Th]
OFFSUITJ/2: bets $2
Scott Owen: raises $2 to $4
daBigZib: calls $4
OFFSUITJ/2: calls $2
*** TURN *** [9d 8d Th] [9c]
OFFSUITJ/2: checks
Scott Owen: bets $9
daBigZib: calls $9
OFFSUITJ/2: raises $14 to $23
Scott Owen: raises $72 to $95 and is all-in
daBigZib: folds
OFFSUITJ/2: calls $72
*** RIVER *** [9d 8d Th 9c] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OFFSUITJ/2: shows [9h Tc] (a full house, Nines full of Tens)
Scott Owen: mucks hand
OFFSUITJ/2 collected $211 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $214 | Rake $3
Board [9d 8d Th 9c Kc]
Seat 1: 123JORGE123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Vallhall (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: OFFSUITJ/2 (small blind) showed [9h Tc] and won ($211) with a full house, Nines full of Tens
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 10-03-2005, 05:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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The board paired... How do you get away from it? Fold.
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Old 10-03-2005, 05:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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At 25 and 50 NL i will pay off the boat there because in the long run i think you'll see more hands like 9 and strong kicker. Or 9 + strait draw. At 100 NL i don't know, but does anything besides a boat raise your turn bet? Especially with the other guy calling behind you, i don't think i push in your spot. Maybe call and hope for a cheap river, but you're OOP so little chance of that. I guess there are players who would fold this reutinely but i'm not one of them, tough hand.
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Check turn. Let him value bet the river. Don't re-raise with a straight on a paired board.
Dealer: bencathers has two pair, Aces and Deuces
Dealer: Tbags has two pair, Kings and Jacks
Dealer: Tbags finished the tournament in 256th place
Tbags [observer]: another scumbag gets there on this site lol
 
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:44 PM #5 (permalink)  
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ok.. thanks guys
villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
 
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:44 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Check turn. Let him value bet the river. Don't re-raise with a straight on a paired board.
My sentiments exactly. Seek a cheap showdown or fold.
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:20 PM     Post subject: Re: AARGH #7 (permalink)  
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*** TURN *** [9d 8d Th] [9c]
OFFSUITJ/2: checks
Scott Owen: checks
*** RIVER *** [9d 8d Th 9c] [Kc]

Suppose you check behind on the turn. The pot is about $15. What do you do in each of these river situations?

1. OFFSUITJ/2: checks
2. OFFSUITJ/2: bets $2
3. OFFSUITJ/2: bets $8
4. OFFSUITJ/2: bets $15
5. OFFSUITJ/2: bets $20
6. OFFSUITJ/2: goes all-in
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I don't see option 1 viable because villian is going to want to try to extract some value... unless hero has a very aggressive image at the table.

I'd call 2 and 8. The rest are very read dependent on the opponent
Dealer: bencathers has two pair, Aces and Deuces
Dealer: Tbags has two pair, Kings and Jacks
Dealer: Tbags finished the tournament in 256th place
Tbags [observer]: another scumbag gets there on this site lol
 
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:34 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Here's my deal: When the board pairs and you have connecting cards on the board i.e. T9 or 89 I run for the hills. People will play any suited connector. A full house is likely with that board.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:31 AM     Post subject: Re: AARGH #10 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by BIGandRICH
*** TURN *** [9d 8d Th] [9c]
OFFSUITJ/2: checks
Scott Owen: bets $9
daBigZib: calls $9
OFFSUITJ/2: raises $14 to $23
He just nearly min-reraised not one but TWO players. That screams monster-that-I-want-paid-off.
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Old 10-04-2005, 03:02 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Only an idiot check-raises on a paired board this coordinated without a full house. Either fold on the turn or if you insist on showing down the hand, call and check-call a reasonable bet on the river.
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