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badgers
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03-29-2008, 12:06 AM
Post subject: AA vs. station who gets aggro...
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4-of-a-Kind
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Opp is 30/6/0.3 over 100 hands. Standard?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($54.65)
UTG ($51.50)
UTG+1 ($71.65)
MP1 ($43.65)
MP2 ($95.45)
Hero ($50)
Button ($48.25)
SB ($50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , A .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 3 folds, MP1 calls $2.
Flop: ($5.75) 9 , 7 , 9 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4.
Turn: ($13.75) 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $10, MP1 raises to $37.15, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $33.75
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std vs this guy.
not getting away when a station suddenly goes nuts is an expensive hobby
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Originally Posted by bigred
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
std vs this guy.
not getting away when a station suddenly goes nuts is an expensive hobby
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Damn! Maybe this explains my lousy winrate. I pay off this station every time here
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
std vs this guy.
not getting away when a station suddenly goes nuts is an expensive hobby
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Omg I've just realised something huge that I should have thought about a LONG time ago...
Total postflop AF requires a much smaller sample of hands for looser players. Sounds simple/ fucking obvious but it's going to help meeeee so i thought I'd share my retardation in case anybody else is the same
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d0zer
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Originally Posted by badgers
Omg I've just realised something huge that I should have thought about a LONG time ago...
Total postflop AF requires a much smaller sample of hands for looser players. Sounds simple/ fucking obvious but it's going to help meeeee so i thought I'd share my retardation in case anybody else is the same 
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I always look at how many postflop actions I have on them in the detailed stats to judge postflop AF reliability.
Stations who are like 50/2/0 & fold to flop bet 80% of the time I find give away their predictable style after as few as 50 hands...
It makes sense that someone who's 15/10 would take about 3 times as many hands to reveal their postflop tendencies than someone who's 45/x.
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Originally Posted by d0zer
Damn! Maybe this explains my lousy winrate. I pay off this station every time here 
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awesome man i think you found your biggest leak. this is like THE monster line, and you just can't pay it off unless villain is a tard.
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Originally Posted by d0zer
Damn! Maybe this explains my lousy winrate. I pay off this station every time here 
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awesome man i think you found your biggest leak. this is like THE monster line, and you just can't pay it off unless villain is a tard.
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Yeah man, I guess I've really gotta start taking stations more seriously when they wake up.
So if this station had TT-KK / A7 would you expect them to call you down on three streets instead of pushing turn? I could see a station min-raising flop with one of those hands...
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I'm a pay-off bitch who will stack off with Aces just about everytime and I wouldn't think twice about hitting the fold button here.
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d0zer
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Holy piss Fnord folds this? Apparently I've really gotta start taking crazy aggression from stations a lot more seriously...
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by badgers
Total postflop AF requires a much smaller sample of hands for looser players.
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On the flip side, they're going to tend to have weaker hands because they're playing a wider pre-flop range. Hence you're going to see more calling even if they played the same post-flop as you.
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Originally Posted by d0zer
Holy piss Fnord folds this? Apparently I've really gotta start taking crazy aggression from stations a lot more seriously...
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LOL! My manager just walked over to my desk as I lol'd so loud and banged my desk 
But yeah, I'm in the same boat here. I love these wake-up-threads where I something finally really clicks.
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