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Old 10-23-2006, 09:37 PM     Post subject: AA vs allin on turn. Call or fold? #1 (permalink)  
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No reads on villain...just got to the table for a few hands and got into this hand: What should I have done?

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $40.80
HERO: $98.50
UTG+2: $87.00
MP1: $124.80
MP2: $142.85
MP3: $115.50
CO: $34.60
Button: $17.35
SB: $137.50
BB: $97.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) HERO is UTG+1 with A A
UTG calls, HERO raises to $5, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Flop: T 3 J ($21.5, 4 players)
BB checks, HERO bets $15, MP1 calls, 2 folds.

Turn: T ($51.5, 2 players)
HERO bets $25, MP1 raises all-in $104.8.

HERO???
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think I call. It looks like a pretty good spot for a ten to just smooth call, so I don't think he has one often enough for me to fold.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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check turn.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:00 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 It's so damn hard to fold AA but because he is a fullstack I think it's best to just fold this. In the heat of battle however I might just insta-call..
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:08 AM #5 (permalink)  
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check turn.
weak imo.
Im with nutsinho, i call. Its just too fast, and unless you mention opp will play a big hand this fast its looks too much like KQ/89 or something similar.
If opp plays JT or Tx this fast hes incapable of putting you on cards and will get stacked pretty quickly anyway afterwards, so doubling him is no big deal IMO.
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check turn.
weak imo.
Im with nutsinho, i call. Its just too fast, and unless you mention opp will play a big hand this fast its looks too much like KQ/89 or something similar.
If opp plays JT or Tx this fast hes incapable of putting you on cards and will get stacked pretty quickly anyway afterwards, so doubling him is no big deal IMO.
I disagree.. if you had ATs and you knew opponent had AA wouldnt you go all in?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:18 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 ummm if he knew his opponent had AA he'd have folded preflop or on the flop...whats your point?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:36 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Eww..this hand sucks. Nothing makes sense for villains line here except 333 and he hopes you have a ten. I think this is a fold. If he has KQ or something it's gross.
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You have to bet turn to see where you're at.

I'd probably fold this; all I beat is Jx, QQ, or KK.
Looks like Tx or 33.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:38 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Well, his insta-push looked like a semi-bluff to me so I called and lost my stack. He had JJ. Sums up my month....been like this day after day. I keep losing set over set, flush over flush and every time I go into the flop dominating, I get out-flopped. It's been unreal...
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:51 PM #11 (permalink)  
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ummm if he knew his opponent had AA he'd have folded preflop or on the flop...whats your point?
Maybe he figured it out on the turn. Typical 100NL players will push a T here into displayed persistent confidence. IMO that's why you continue the turn confidently with AA. It's to let the opponent know you want to stay, so if they push knowing this you can get away.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:55 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 I'm only folding this with a read.
Or maybe in 6 max where it's more believable I'm against some random T.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:14 PM #13 (permalink)  
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You have to bet turn to see where you're at.
Hopefully there's more to your turn bet than that.
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