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daven
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04-19-2008, 01:43 AM
Post subject: aa vs 40bb
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Straight Flush
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check-folding turn feels horrible, but the only other options mean a showdown (note villains stack size!) cos bet-fold is out of mind given villain stack-pot ratio.
Thoughts? is anything I beat calling?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($50)
BB ($24.05)
UTG ($34.90)
UTG+1 ($17)
Hero ($52.05)
MP2 ($18.15)
MP3 ($53.40)
CO ($22.85)
Button ($53.45)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , A . UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, MP3 calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds.
Flop: ($6) T , 5, 9 (4 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP3 folds, CO calls $3.50.
Turn: ($13) 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $46.8 (All-In),
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d0zer
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In these situations I like to give villain some rope to hang himself on. You'd be amazed how many shorties will just push with after you bet basically half their stack thinking they have any FE...
What's all this talk of folding?
I think an $8 bet works here...
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Muzzard
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WTF.
Bet/bet/bet.
Your flop bet size is bad, there should be no question that you want to get it in vs a shorty here. IMO results oriented.
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daven
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cool - I'm checking that some of my standard plays are in fact standard.
I thought it was... interesting insight into implied odds for shorties though
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d0zer
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$5-6 on the flop sets villain up perfectly for a pot-sized or less push on turn...
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mixchange
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anytime someone has 40bb or less AA is pretty much autofelt
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will641
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mixchange
anytime someone has 40bb or less AA is pretty much autofelt
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also, your flop bet size is terrible. if you bet the flop to like $5, it makes turn bet size much better.
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
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kmind
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You have the nuts + your flop bet size allowed for more hands to continue + this guy is short + this guy most likely sucks = easy felt
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Miffed22001
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pot turn call a push
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AlexMorris
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He calls with tons of hands that you crush: T9, JJ, QQ, KK, AT. He could easily call with other strange crap like JT, QJ, 88, A9, etc.
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Originally Posted by mixchange
anytime someone has 40bb or less AA is pretty much autofelt
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QFT
As others have said: pre-flop should be $2, flop should be $4-$5, turn should be at least $9 if you size your previous bets correctly (a shove is fine, too). As played, turn shove is fine to make sure OESD is getting terrible odds.
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
pot turn call a push
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Villain only has 1.3 times the pot, so a pot sized bet is no different than a shove. Just shove.
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