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Rockymv
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01-31-2006, 11:18 PM
Post subject: AA PF question
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Full House
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Should I have 3-bet preflop here? Button was a total idiot.
PokerStars Game #3820362133: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/01/31 - 19:13:18 (ET)
Table 'Gryphia' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: mycenter ($61.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Rockymv ($101.30 in chips)
Seat 4: marcusp24 ($144.60 in chips)
Seat 6: z_balata ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 7: ijustscrwdu ($48 in chips)
Seat 8: Marccus85 ($197.15 in chips)
Seat 9: hannes22 ($102.25 in chips)
Marccus85: posts small blind $0.50
hannes22: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rockymv [Ad As]
mycenter: folds
Rockymv: raises $3 to $4
marcusp24: folds
z_balata: folds
ijustscrwdu: raises $6 to $10
Marccus85: calls $9.50
hannes22: folds
Rockymv: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [6h Jc 9d]
Marccus85: checks
Rockymv: checks
ijustscrwdu: checks
*** TURN *** [6h Jc 9d] [7s]
Marccus85: checks
Rockymv: bets $20
ijustscrwdu: raises $18 to $38 and is all-in
Marccus85: folds
Rockymv: calls $18
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Miffed22001
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Once there is a cold caller behind the original reraiser i think its 3 bet time. You have at least one opp who likes his hand and another who just put $10 in cold behind a reraise.
I think i make this $25 at least to make it HU.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
Once there is a cold caller behind the original reraiser i think its 3 bet time.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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I didnt even read the hand history but ill always 3 bet with AA preflop. Ill try and get as much in preflop as i can when i know im ahead. If hes a total idiot then he'll hopefully pay me off with a very wide range preflop..l.. that also means i wont have a clue what he's hit (2 pair) postflop.
Ok now ive read it. Yea 3 bet. Nice big one too.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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outphase
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Full House
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make it 25 because of the cold caller
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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natdang
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Yeap, give it to 'em preflop! I wouldn't check the flop either, there's 2 to a straight there.
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SonOfAkira
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Should the 3-bet be a push? Serious question. This seems like a dream come true situation for AA.
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Miffed22001
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no you advertise too easily.
If one opp has reraised here with the range of AK/KK/QQ posibly JJ you want him to see a flop for a large amount. Pushing just scares em away. Yes they may hit a two outer but that happens little. The other option is now that opp pushes QQ/KK preflop which is fine for you. Plus if they only call they may fall in love with a low flop.
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SonOfAkira
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
no you advertise too easily.
If one opp has reraised here with the range of AK/KK/QQ posibly JJ you want him to see a flop for a large amount. Pushing just scares em away. Yes they may hit a two outer but that happens little. The other option is now that opp pushes QQ/KK preflop which is fine for you. Plus if they only call they may fall in love with a low flop.
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Ideally I agree, of course.
Two situations, though, i've found myself in:
1. When multitabling, and serious negotiations taking place on at least two other tables, i've found myself making this 3-bet push as the easiest way to play it and not get distracted from trickier action on other tables, and sometimes even the 2-bet push when a number of players have called a decent sized raise.
2. At 100NL and 25NL, not hardly at all at 50, i've seen players call this push with junk, half the time not even a pocket pair.
Thoughts?
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WhooFleuryScores
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Should the 3-bet be a push? Serious question. This seems like a dream come true situation for AA.
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This is a dream come true for every AA holder.You pray that someone holds KK/QQ/AKs/AKo.I would push in a heartbeat.
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