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Kiriath
Old 03-07-2005, 12:37 PM     Post subject: AA getting value #1 (permalink)  
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After loosing two 50-70 dollar hands at the river to 2-4 outs, this happens:


Hand #4372775-16373 at Trent (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 07/Mar/05 08:23:18

Bigmason1 is at seat 0 with $27.60.
rotgut is at seat 5 with $85.55.
dennis1975 is at seat 8 with $24.75.
Kiriath is at seat 9 with $31.30.
The button is at seat 5.

dennis1975 posts the small blind of $.10.
Kiriath posts the big blind of $.25.

Bigmason1: -- --
rotgut: -- --
dennis1975: -- --
Kiriath: Ad As

Pre-flop:

Bigmason1 calls. rotgut raises to $1.10. dennis1975
calls. Kiriath calls. Bigmason1 calls.

Flop (board: 7c 5d 4d):

dennis1975 checks. Kiriath checks. Bigmason1
checks. rotgut bets $4.40. dennis1975 calls.
Kiriath raises to $8.80. Bigmason1 folds. rotgut
calls. dennis1975 calls.

Turn (board: 7c 5d 4d 2h):

dennis1975 checks. Kiriath goes all-in for $21.40.
rotgut calls. dennis1975 goes all-in for $14.85.

River (board: 7c 5d 4d 2h 4c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

Kiriath shows Ad As.
Kiriath has Ad As 7c 4d 4c: two pair, aces and fours.
rotgut mucks cards.
(rotgut has Td 3d.)
dennis1975 shows 8h 8s.
dennis1975 has 8h 8s 7c 4d 4c: two pair, eights and fours.


Hand #4372775-16373 Summary:

$2 is raked from a total pot of $88.45.
$2 is raked from the main pot of $75.35.
$0 is raked from side pot #1 of $13.10.
Kiriath wins the main pot $73.35 with two pair, aces and fours.
Kiriath wins the side pot $13.10 with two pair, aces and fours.
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hehe, and yea, we were playing pretty loose at this table =D
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72bluffer
Old 03-07-2005, 01:29 PM #2 (permalink)  

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Not criticizing, just questioning


Why are you not betting AA pre flop and more on the flop

He had 12 outs that would of beaten you?
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FlyingSaucy
Old 03-07-2005, 01:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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How in the hell did rotgut ever build a stack like that if he makes terrible plays like that?

All in all, I can barely see a good play from anyone. Were these folks historically making crazy moves like this a lot? I realize it's short handed and maybe, in some remote circumstances, could be understandable to not re-raise with AA preflop, but come on. I consider it pretty insane to not reraise with AA under 99.9% of circumstances.

Just about every other decision made by all 3 of you was pretty questionable.
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BigmacAg
Old 03-07-2005, 08:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I would have probably raised a bit more pre-flop. I always like to be heads up with AA or KK. Just me though.
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Kiriath
Old 03-07-2005, 10:01 PM     Post subject: hehe #5 (permalink)  
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the reason why I didnt raise AA preflop was because I knew bigstack would, we had been playing me and him at that table for like half an hour, and he was simply anihilating every small stack who joined ( 5 or 10 dollar ones ) by over betting them. This had the effect of making them fold like 80% of the times, to raise 10% and when this happened he folded. or call the other 10% ending up ruining em either first, second or thierd they went to the showdown.

In short, he used hes huge stack to mob the floor with the smallstacks. So I knew he was gonna raise preflop, raise at the flop, and most likely set us both all in if I didnt show too much agression, wich would make him fold.

if I had reraised him preflop he would either have just folded straight away, or folded at the flop. Thats why I didnt.
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