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allabout
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02-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Post subject: AA facing weird river shove
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This hand played out kinda weird, not really sure what to make of it. Don't know if I like how I played it and not sure how to play it better.
All 3 of us are regs MP2 is 17/10 and BB is 15/11. I checked the turn with the intention of c/calling of MP2 bet if BB didn't raise, but don't know if leading there is better or even if c/folding would have been good. Flush draws are definitely in both of their ranges, but river just confuses me. Only hand I can see playing this way is 33 or some bluff. But I don't see him bluffing with another player still to act. I would think a set would have maybe raised the flop or at least bet the turn.
Also don't know about my river bet size. I was thinking it was a size that might get worse hands to call like AQ or KQ or something like that, but if it was raised I could get away a little cheaper. Flop bet is probably a little small as well I'm thinking. Whadya think?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($35.50)
SB ($60.50)
BB ($106.85)
Hero (UTG) ($100)
MP1 ($152.35)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($11.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , A
Hero bets $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3
Flop: ($12.50) 2 , 5, 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, MP2 calls $9, BB calls $9
Turn: ($39.50) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks
River: ($39.50) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $23, MP2 raises to $87 (All-In), Hero
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Deanglow
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bet the turn and fold the river ez game
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Gshark
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I really don't like your check on the turn. Too many draws out there (even with the raise pf). I'd make it at least 20-25 to go, maybe in even a shove.
As played you have to fold on the river. You're probably facing a set, maybe a straight...
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grindinginnj
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
bet the turn and fold the river ez game
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LOL,Was thinking the same thing...
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gn2056
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Offah, I dont think that you even have a 1 percent chance of your hand being good. That is one of those hands where we cant believe the crap that has us beat, especially with what you started with but to call there, as I am sure you didn't, is just a matter of pride. Good fold...
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Fnord
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Bet turn please.
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mxiu
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why would u check a safe turn and bet the scary river?
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-----bryce
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gotta bet the turn. just like someone else said you are giving a free card for to many draws. bet turn and if he calls and shoves on river you gotta fold
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imstill confused on wtf villain can have here
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BankItDrew
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good check on the turn, maybe we can get value from 33 on the river with a safe card.
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cyclop43
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
bet the turn and fold the river ez game
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I agree on 100%
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texa8
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i think the flop bet size is fine. you may be thinking of raising more simply because we see in hindsight that both players called.
IMO the turn needs to be bet. giving a free card on a wet board against 2 villains is not +EV in that spot imo..
as mentioned i think the river is an easy fold. I think the only hand u beat here is AQ and that was bet on the turn for the reasons above.
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