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Rockymv
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07-07-2006, 12:10 AM
Post subject: AA: Donked up
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Villian is 21/10. I was flustered and tilting a little bit here, so I just shoved the turn. What's the best line?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($49)
MP3 ($139.15)
CO ($73.40)
Button ($49.75)
SB ($101.75)
BB ($100.40)
UTG ($134.70)
Hero ($98.50)
UTG+2 ($46.90)
MP1 ($179.20)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $12, 4 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $8.
Flop: ($26.50) 6 , 7 , Q (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP3 calls $20.
Turn: ($66.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero calls $66.50 (All-In), MP3 calls $66.50.
River: ($199.50) J (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $199.50
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Miffed22001
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hero check raises all in i guess on the flop assuming opp has KK and will call all day and doesnt have QQ.
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flaptornriver
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I don't really have a problem with this bet. Your bet is only a pot sized one after all. If you are called, I think you are usually beat here, althought you may be getting action from AQ or KK. You do have outs to the heart though. You HAVE to bet something on the turn, and it's not like you're folding to a reraise anyway. You may even be getting action from a hand like KQ, with the K of hearts.
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Miffed22001
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Thats rarely ever AQ or KQ for that matter at these tsakes unless a shark or good aggro just sat down.
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flaptornriver
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Thats rarely ever AQ or KQ for that matter at these tsakes unless a shark or good aggro just sat down.
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True. Let's go with KK (with K of hearts), outside shot at AQs, and hope you're not looking at QQ.
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"If the only tool you have is a hammer,
everything tends to look like a nail."
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Rockymv
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Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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flaptornriver
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OK, I see where you are going - smooth call with QQ, right? Can you get away from your hand?
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"If the only tool you have is a hammer,
everything tends to look like a nail."
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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c/r flop be better?
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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I don't like making a habit of check/folding with 11 good outs, a possible best hand and pot behind.
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bdawg56kg
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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No. I think your line is okay, although I might c/r flop or c/c and look to c/r ai on the turn.
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ensign_lee
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If you don't reraise preflop, then your line should be fine.
Maybe a $40 bet on the turn to entice him to go all in with you (if that's your objective). Otherwise, I think your $60 bet on the turn isn't bad at all.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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I actually think that given preflop action, stack sizes, etc, a raise with KK on this flop would be pretty poor by villain.
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Bear Bones
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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I actually think that given preflop action, stack sizes, etc, a raise with KK on this flop would be pretty poor by villain.
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How would a flop raise by KK be worse than an AI call on the turn?
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Rockymv
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
Doesn't KK always raise the flop here?
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I actually think that given preflop action, stack sizes, etc, a raise with KK on this flop would be pretty poor by villain.
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Is this because he's wa/wb, and calling the flop extracts the most from AQ, KQ, and JJ? What about the heart draw on the board?
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