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daven
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01-31-2009, 01:12 AM
Post subject: aa in 3-bet pot vs weird nit-styler
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Villain is a heavy loser at 100nl over 10k hands. Likes to play the 200bb tables and buy in full. His pre-flop range is weak/wide. His pfr is a staggering 3%, and history shows that this is exclusively JJ+/AK unless he's stealing from button or small blind, when it may extend to AQ and other pairs. I've been 3-betting a lot more over the last few sessions, but his hud-stats probably show me with a 3-bet of something more like 2.6%
His fold to 3-bet is 25%, i guess that means he calls the pairs. He 4-bets aces sometime, but never kings.
His fold vs cbet is high - 75%, but that's an artifact of his vpip of 20 and playing fit or fold.
So, this hand his range is looking like JJ/QQ/KK/AA. So, 3 combinations of JJ, 3 of QQ, 6 of KK, 1 of AA. I don't think he's folding or raising any of these hands on this board. I'm curious about best flop line here. If he's ever going to fold KK then I guess I should check.
I also wonder what merit there is in simply shoving pre-flop, he's gotta call that range....
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($139.40)
UTG ($198.80)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($219.30)
MP2 ($101.90)
CO ($81.85)
Button ($107.60)
SB ($213.70)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A
UTG raises to $5, 6 folds, Hero raises to $15.50, UTG calls $10.50
Flop: ($31.50) 6 , J , Q (2 players)
Hero bets $31.50,
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bigspenda73
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cool bet-pot button, does it come in purple?
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ATOTHEC101
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Yeah betting pot is definitely overkill in this situation, I also make it $20 + pre as his utg range is ridiculously strong and hell call 20+ just as much as he calls 15. As played Betting $22ish on the flop is fine.
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Miffed22001
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id 3bet much bigger if you can put him on cards if he calls + his range UTG to open the pot.
Board doesnt look great to stack it all off but id like to get lots in regardless if he cant fold
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nutsinho
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how often do u not have AA/KK when you reraise in this spot preflop. I'd guess absolutely never. Can this guy read hands at all?
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daven
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how often do u not have AA/KK when you reraise in this spot preflop. I'd guess absolutely never. Can this guy read hands at all?
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vs this guy sometimes AK. But, vs other players my range gets wider sometimes - I doubt he has this in his notes though. As far as I can tell he's pretty level 1 in his play.
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nutsinho
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if you reraised any other hand besides AA and KK in this spot (i'm talking about this specific opponent obviously) you'd be making a pretty big mistake. As such if you don't think he is completely oblivious then you should just call with your whole range. He raised 5xBB utg!! with a 3% overall pfr. Calling your whole range here sets up a fine spr for both your nut overpairs and your flopped sets.
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daven
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if you reraised any other hand besides AA and KK in this spot (i'm talking about this specific opponent obviously) you'd be making a pretty big mistake.As such if you don't think he is completely oblivious then you should just call with your whole range. He raised 5xBB utg!! with a 3% overall pfr. Calling your whole range here sets up a fine spr for both your nut overpairs and your flopped sets. .
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this comment made me think a lot - and that thinking has got me understanding some stuff i didn't understand before... thanks
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