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Rafpig
Old 12-22-2006, 08:27 PM     Post subject: 99 in a weird flop. Can I call here?? #1 (permalink)  

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No read on Villain. Is it possible to call here? I bet really strong pre-flop and pos-flop, I guess he is telling me I´m beat...Any chance he is doing this woth a small pocket pair or a bluff?

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MP ($11)
CO ($9.40)
Button ($3.40)
Hero ($10.35)
BB ($1.60)
UTG ($16.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9.
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.7, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $0.60.

Flop: ($1.60) Q, Q, Q (2 players)

Rafpig: bets $1.20
siljalaine: raises $9.10 to $10.30 and is all-in
Rafpig: ??
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd tend to think I'm ahead, his limp after the UTG limps for me screams of a lower pair 22 - 88 hoping to his set. Whether I'd call i'm not sure depends I guess if I was in a gambling mood. Obv he could have the other Queen but thats the only card im fearing without a read unlikely he has a higher pair than nines without re-raising pre or after your BB raise, then again if he's calling your bet he must have something, AQ, KQ, JQ maybe.
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Old 12-23-2006, 08:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Interesting spot. Most opponents won't fastplay Qx here, especially when in position. I'd put him on something like AJ or 66 here and call...
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 12-23-2006, 04:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Villian has a pair, most likely. Not sure what pairs limp/call like that pre-flop. People do trap with KK/AA pre-flop ike this, althlough with the uncrackable near-nuts I would not expect a flop push.

99 is probably a call, but 77 might be a fold. TT/JJ is certainly a call.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:31 PM #5 (permalink)  

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Thanks for the answers. I think I made a mistake here. I folded my hand. I think it was +EV to call.
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Old 12-25-2006, 06:39 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 his flop line suggests he's afraid of a call.
 
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Old 12-26-2006, 11:02 PM #7 (permalink)  
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just as i was reading this post i get this hand: lol
Seat 1: Riivo ($29.10 in chips)
Seat 2: All in Boost ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 3: amanda13 x ($74.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Joakim99 ($35.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero [QC,QH] ($54.15 in chips)
Seat 7: zipidy ($11 in chips)
Seat 8: weikko80 ($24.35 in chips)
Seat 9: clarux85 ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 10: JV--13 ($32.25 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
Riivo posts blind ($0.15), All in Boost posts blind ($0.25), zipidy posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
amanda13 x folds, Joakim99 folds, Hero bets $1.25, zipidy folds, weikko80 folds, clarux85 folds, JV--13 folds, Riivo bets $3, All in Boost folds, Hero calls $1.90.

FLOP [board cards 10S,10D,10H ]
Riivo bets $5, Hero calls $5.

TURN [board cards 10S,10D,10H,8H ]
Riivo bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

RIVER [board cards 10S,10D,10H,8H,2S ]
Riivo bets $15, Hero calls $15.

SHOWDOWN
Riivo shows [ AC,AD ]
Hero mucks cards [ QC,QH ]
Riivo wins $46.80.
SUMMARY
Dealer: JV--13
Pot: $47.30, (including rake: $0.50)
Riivo, bets $23.40, collects $46.80, net $23.40
All in Boost, loses $0.25
amanda13 x, loses $0
Joakim99, loses $0
Hero, loses $23.40
zipidy, loses $0.25
weikko80, loses $0
clarux85, loses $0
JV--13, loses $0

the only notes i had on this player were that he played AA aggressively in the past. i think the preflop and the flop are ok. i think maybe i should raise on the turn. maybe not though - calling keeps the pot smaller. if he then raises i can maybe fold. actually i'll be committed if i raise. his minbet suggests maybe AK.
i think i should probably fold the river. i acted to quickly

what do you think?
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:32 AM #8 (permalink)  
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the only notes i had on this player were that he played AA aggressively in the past. i think the preflop and the flop are ok. i think maybe i should raise on the turn. maybe not though - calling keeps the pot smaller. if he then raises i can maybe fold. actually i'll be committed if i raise. his minbet suggests maybe AK.
i think i should probably fold the river. i acted to quickly

what do you think?
I like just calling the turn/river here. After his 3bet preflop it looks like he has JJ+ here a lot of the time. That river bet make it look a lot like AA looking to get paid off and you could possibly find a fold.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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