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Da GOAT
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02-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Post subject: 88 set 25NL opp call down
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Straight Flush
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No stats have shown up on opp plus no reads.
Hows my line?? my river check was to induce more hands to bet. oops
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($15)
Button ($17.10)
Hero ($32.05)
BB ($7.05)
UTG ($31.40)
UTG+1 ($13.10)
MP1 ($28.45)
MP2 ($20.80)
MP3 ($24)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , 8 . CO posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75.
Flop: ($3.50) 8 , 5 , 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.75, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2.75.
Turn: ($9) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP1 calls $5.
River: ($19) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $19.7 (All-In), Hero ?????????
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biondino
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Fold. You are behind a very obvious straight and a very obvious flush, both of which he's obviously not scared of. He *could* be bluffing here but since you showed strength on flop and turn, he's probably not. Of course, there is a small chance he puts you on a set, two pair or an overpair, hence your check on the river, but I really doubt he's that aggro.
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bode
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tough fold, but you are beat here > 2/3 times.
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Da GOAT
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maybe it isnt much of a hand actually!! as long as it seems grand im happy
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Miffed22001
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rgrtgttrthyhyhwtyhcreg fold.
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stuck
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With no info, fold. This could have just been an AQ calling down and spiking top pair, but they probably wouldn't be this aggro.
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If I had a hammer
I'd drop in the morning
I'd drop in the evening..
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bearcats05
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fold the way it was played.
maybe sometimes just check call the turn and try to keep the pot smaller... but with no info at 25nl being aggressive is probably better idk.
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jyms
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With the two completed draws, I may be more apt to make a value bet on the river instead of the check. The problem with the check is it now could be just AQ or PP thinking your weak. He could be easily putting you on two overs or just a small PP and be thinking he has you beat. As played, fold. The problem with wanting them to bet is, they might, then what.
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IowaSkinsFan
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this looks so bluffy i wish u had reads.
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Pants_101
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Is it not the case that if you check to induce a bluff you then have to call because otherwise you are helping your opp play better against you? With the pf raise I'd be suprised if he has a 7 but I'm often suprised
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Must get more aggressive - Tonight we dine in $25NL! rah rah rah! etc
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Chopper
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maybe i'm a nit, but there's no way i call this. too much out there that weakens your hand substantially.
fold. at 25 NL i am not worried about picking off bluffs. just wait for a better opportunity.
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Ash256
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This is a situation I learned to stop getting myself into - checking the river to induce a bluff, then having an uncallable bet thrown at me. I much prefer betting the river.
Whether to call or not? I don't know, that's a horrible one.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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The only hands I really fear are QQ or a flush... maybe a long shot 87s? I dunno I probably call.
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yorib
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Tough since it looks so much like AcQ. I mean, an overpair would reraise that flop bet. A straight would check down, or throw out a value bet so they don't get blown off of their hand. It's either a bluff or a flush. Flushes usually value bet there.
For me it's a crying call, I think it's 50/50 and that's +EV.
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Miffed22001
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i posted in the badbeast forum so ill post here to:
you dont even have third nuts, lolololol@stacking off when teh board is flushy and straighty.
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Da GOAT
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
i posted in the badbeast forum so ill post here to:
you dont even have third nuts, lolololol@stacking off when teh board is flushy and straighty.
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lol i didnt call his mad river shove!!! so it aint a bad beat
thx tho, i posted str8 after it happened.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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