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Old 06-12-2006, 08:33 PM     Post subject: 87s from sb: How's my line? #1 (permalink)  
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $62.58
UTG+1: $30.34
UTG+2: $9.85
MP1: $51.50
MP2: $61.90
MP3: $50.57
CO: $87.27
Button: $47.95
Hero: $64.70
BB: $76.41

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with 8 7
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: T 9 3 ($2.5, 5 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: 5 ($9.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $6.5, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, Button folds.

River: J ($22.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP3 raises all-in $41.82, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $106.14
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd check/call the river on the chance that he has a higher flush. If you lost this hand, I'm assuming that's what he had.
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think I could sometimes find a fold on this river.
 
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Your play looks fine, probably fold the river.. what is he gonna have here besides a higher flush? Hard to fold this though..
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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If you looked at my line, does it look like a flush? Because i was trying to conceal it by leading out-or does my lead out make it look like i was on fd on flop and turn?
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:10 PM #6 (permalink)  
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A lot of players lead with flush draws now - it's just not very concealing. Hard to put him on anything but a flush, from his megabet on the river. I agree with Fnord, I could find a fold here - but it would be a crying fold for sure. I haven't folded flushes often on unpaired boards, but if ever there was an occasion that looked like a fold, this was one.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:36 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Can we really find a fold against an unknown? There were no reads, stats, etc. posted in the OP, Id be hardpressed to find a fold here against an unknown, but maybe thats a leak on my part.
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Can we really find a fold against an unknown? There were no reads, stats, etc. posted in the OP, Id be hardpressed to find a fold here against an unknown, but maybe thats a leak on my part.
In a 5-way pot where it was very apparent that a flush was the winning hand, and my flush was only eight high, and my opponent was pushing after I strongly led all three streets... I think I could find a fold against this here unknown.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:40 PM #9 (permalink)  
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If this was raised pre-flop I would almost never get away from this. In an unraised multi-way pot, we need to seriously consider that our hand is no good.
 
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:48 PM #10 (permalink)  
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If the hand played out the same way but we had a queen high flush would we call the push?
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:06 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Grey area; I'm definitely calling with the king high, and probably with the queen high as well. Beyond that it gets very questionable.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:04 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Anyone check/call a value bet, fold to a push on this river?
 
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Old 06-13-2006, 05:28 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I'd check/call the river on the chance that he has a higher flush. If you lost this hand, I'm assuming that's what he had.
I'd say you made a good assumption.....
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