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Old 07-20-2008, 06:47 AM     Post subject: 68s flush draw and bottom pair - get it on? #1 (permalink)  
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 okay, villain is a 30-20 fish and i don't imagine him folding top pair - but maybe if i push..
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:30 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Board: Qh Th 8d
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.029% 49.58% 00.45% 5890 53.50 { AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 49.971% 49.52% 00.45% 5883 53.50 { 8h6h }

ok so this is not a range but you get the idea, pair and draw is usually a monster
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I`d rather shove vs a good TAgg here then a fish. If you peel and make trips/2pair/flush you can probably get it in anyway so I'd probably prefer calling since villian is a fish.
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just noticed stacks which makes this a clear push, full stacked you have a point yaawn. don't expect ANY FE though.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:21 AM #6 (permalink)  
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o lol never seen stack size. Yeah get it in right here easy
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:51 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 It looks like you are behind in this hand (even considering outs) with about 45% equity. Also looks like you have zero FE.

I peel a card off against this shorty donk and shove any turn card. FE here may increase if turn brings a 9 or J or even an ace. No sense in getting even more money in on the flop if we know we are behind.

Either way, we are eventually getting our stack AI. FE should be our #1 priority though.


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It looks like you are behind in this hand (even considering outs) with about 45% equity. Also looks like you have zero FE.

I peel a card off against this shorty donk and shove any turn card. FE here may increase if turn brings a 9 or J or even an ace. No sense in getting even more money in on the flop if we know we are behind.

Either way, we are eventually getting our stack AI. FE should be our #1 priority though.
so we call and villain open shoves turn on a brick, WHAT NOW BANKITNANCY?
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easy shove considering his stack size, just gambool with him.
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It looks like you are behind in this hand (even considering outs) with about 45% equity. Also looks like you have zero FE.

I peel a card off against this shorty donk and shove any turn card. FE here may increase if turn brings a 9 or J or even an ace. No sense in getting even more money in on the flop if we know we are behind.

Either way, we are eventually getting our stack AI. FE should be our #1 priority though.
so we call and villain open shoves turn on a brick, WHAT NOW BANKITNANCY?
Then we fix the HH so that we are OOP.
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It looks like you are behind in this hand (even considering outs) with about 45% equity. Also looks like you have zero FE.

I peel a card off against this shorty donk and shove any turn card. FE here may increase if turn brings a 9 or J or even an ace. No sense in getting even more money in on the flop if we know we are behind.

Either way, we are eventually getting our stack AI. FE should be our #1 priority though.
so we call and villain open shoves turn on a brick, WHAT NOW BANKITNANCY?
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:52 PM     Post subject: Re: 68s flush draw and bottom pair - get it on? #12 (permalink)  
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All-in. You're probably flipping but whatever. This hand needs at least $150 maybe $200 stacks to be anywhere near interesting.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:37 AM #14 (permalink)  
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 fold = I play bad, thanks.
One more leak plugged....
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fold = I play bad, thanks.
One more leak plugged....
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:28 AM #16 (permalink)  
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fold = I play bad, thanks.
One more leak plugged....
shit, I'd be all in before he even had a chance to raise this
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