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martindcx1e
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01-15-2007, 08:30 AM
Post subject: 66 Raised Pot w/ 32J Rbow Flop - Line Check Please
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is Unknown
50NL
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $26.20
UTG+1: $52.10
MP1: $68.20
MP2: $50
MP3: $77.80
CO: $50
Hero: $49.70
SB: $49.50
BB: $46
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with  
2 folds, MP1 raises to $2.5, 3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.
Flop:    ($5.75, 2 players)
MP1 bets $3, Hero calls.
Turn:  ($11.75, 2 players)
MP1 bets $3, Hero calls.
River:  ($17.75, 2 players)
MP1 bets $5, Hero calls.
Results:
Stop
your
peeking!
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Miffed22001
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lol@stop your peeking.
5bbs opener with no limpers and at a tight? site suggests weakness/strength.
Looks standard, but you could be visiting opps valueville here, versus a bigger pair.
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Da GOAT
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id be more inclined to raise his flop bet or float him if id a read. to many cards hurt if we let him bet every street.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
id be more inclined to raise his flop bet or float him if id a read. to many cards hurt if we let him bet every street.
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id be more concerned we were behind to start with. Calling> Folding > raising
based on 5bbs opener, but only on that information.
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Da GOAT
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
id be more inclined to raise his flop bet or float him if id a read. to many cards hurt if we let him bet every street.
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id be more concerned we were behind to start with. Calling> Folding > raising
based on 5bbs opener, but only on that information. |
Agreed. i meant that if we decide to play at all i like my thoughts.
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AHiltz
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That turn looks like a very weak bet
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WildBobAA
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I probably fold the river. It's unlikely he's firing 3 barrels with nothing. If I see him start to do it a lot, I'm gonna start calling him down.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Fold river
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zook
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Raise flop or turn. I'm not sure why you took this line against an unknown?
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martindcx1e
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I thought the flop looked good to float on. After the weird weak turn bet, I def thought I was ahead, and I didn't think the river changed anything. I decided to risk him hitting an overcard (what I put him on), and give him a chance to bluff some more. I'll give results if there's not much more discussion left on it.
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griffey24
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I don't mind this call down. Though I feel like I see this line pretty often from a villain who has a mid pair 7's-9's, or a weak J.
I'd be surprised to see an overpair playing this so weakly.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by zook
Raise flop or turn. I'm not sure why you took this line against an unknown?
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why should i raise the flop or the turn zook? what do you put him on? i think the turn bet pretty much defines his hand as a piece of crap, and he has at most probably 6 outs going to the river. if he does have complete crap then he probably isn't stickin around if i raise, and if he does have an overpair or something he probably isn't folding. looks like WA/WB to me...
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zook
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by zook
Raise flop or turn. I'm not sure why you took this line against an unknown?
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why should i raise the flop or the turn zook? what do you put him on? i think the turn bet pretty much defines his hand as a piece of crap, and he has at most probably 6 outs going to the river. if he does have complete crap then he probably isn't stickin around if i raise, and if he does have an overpair or something he probably isn't folding. looks like WA/WB to me... |
A few reasons... 1) I'll do it with air a lot, 2) while your hand has showdown value, there are a few hands that beat you that probably fold to a raise (TT-77) and if he's terrible some worse hands that might call (AK/AQ) and then check when they miss, 3) a good player (which I know is unlikely, given his line) would recognize you're weak when you flat-call the turn and bet the river big - I can think of a couple of 100NL regulars who min-bet HU and when flat-called, bet big the next street, 4) metagame, I think an aggro image helps me get my monsters paid off.
Honestly, I don't mind the call down, and you may have gotten the most value out of the hand. It's just not the way I play it against an unknown.
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jdubs
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raise turn? and I have to fold that river against an unknown.
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WildBobAA
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raise river lol
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Renton
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i probably make the turn bet 10 to go. I almost never let people bet the same amount on one street as they bet on the previous street, regardless of what my cards are. I suppose if I had TPTK or something, I might call like u did.
raising the flop would be bad, calling the river is probably close. Ive seen AK take this line before, other than that I don't know what u beat.
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martindcx1e
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villain shows 59o rofl
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WildBobAA
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
villain shows 59o rofl
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Ok so he's not making probe bets, he's just retarded.
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