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andy-akb

06-02-2006, 10:42 PM Post subject: 65s in MP - Made flush on turn, face river overbet push

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Without making this thread too long winded, I have a few questions to ask.

First, preflop. Is this fine?

On the flop, should my first priority be to see a cheap and hopefully free turn? Or should I be betting?

On the turn I make my flush and bet out about 3/4 the pot. There are two folds and then UTG+1 check/calls.

The river brings an ace and villain who check-called the turn pushes for 3.6x the size of the pot. I ahve no real reads on villain as I just joined the table. I cant imagine that an unknown is only doing this with a better flush, I could be wrong here though. Is this a profitable call? What range would you put an unknown on?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($27.05)
UTG ($35.70)
UTG+1 ($40.95)
Hero ($25)
MP1 ($23.10)
MP2 ($11.52)
MP3 ($49.65)
CO ($15.60)
Button ($11.20)
SB ($38.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5

, 6

. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 4 folds, Button raises to $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.35) Q

, 8

, 2

(4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4.35) 9

(4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, Button folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $3.

River: ($10.35) A

(2 players)
UTG+1 is all-In [$36.95]
Hero is all-In [$21]

Final Pot: $10.35

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givememyleg

06-02-2006, 11:22 PM

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When it gets to you preflop it is .75 to call and the pot is $3.50.. I'm not folding either. Even though you are UTG+2, you close the action and only the button has position on you. I probably would check that flop also, if you bet the pf raiser acts after you and what do you do if he is raising? I'm not folding that river. That could be AQ/10J(or some other 2pair) for sure.

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andy-akb

06-03-2006, 02:57 AM

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Those were almost my thoughts exactly, there are just way too many hands that an unknown is going to overplay or bluff or whatever on that river for me to lay down here.

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06-03-2006, 03:42 AM

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I usually don't play mid SC's in EP but every now and then is ok for deception purposes.

Flop:Check call is ok/a semi ok raise to build pot is ok too.

Turn:Bet is good.

River:I have to call.If he has the better flush good for him.

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06-03-2006, 05:22 AM

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I don't call behind the limpers, but if I mis-click then I definitely call the raise. Post-flop you played it well on every street I think. It's a really weird AI bet... I can't imagine a better flush playing it this way.

andy-akb

06-03-2006, 03:05 PM

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Alright, and yea I typically dont make a play like this from EP and most of my SCs are played out of LP for a raise, but I did want to mix it up a little here and this table was passive enough that I did expect a raise, and even If I got one there would be enough callers to let me stay in.

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06-03-2006, 04:10 PM

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preflop is a little oop, if you had Ax here or big sc's like QJs id like it more but im not going to pick if two people limp before me in UTG+2
I might bet this flop, just depends what i hink of the pfr'er checking is an option ass you will b last to act, id just be scared of being isolated if UTG or UTG+1 raise the pfr'er's cont bet.
River is an easy call

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