600nl - turn cbet

**wakeup** · 12-28-2011 01:17 PM

Just checking up on a fairly common spot.

Villain is 21/15/ 3b 12% over 110 hands
Is also multitabling

Hero running 21/16/ 3b 7%

What range are we betting on the turn?
We open wide, cbet wide, so i feel we have to bet turn for value.

1) Whats our plan on river with our range?
2) What about with A5s?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer
SB ($600)
BB ($717)
Hero ($696)
UTG+1 ($588)
UTG+2 ($637)
MP1 ($249)
MP2 ($240)
CO ($660)
BTN ($232)

Dealt to Hero Q

A

Hero raises to $18, fold, UTG+2 calls $18, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($45) 9

8

A

Hero bets $30, UTG+2 calls $30

TURN ($105) 9

8

A

2

Hero ?

**Deanglow** · 12-29-2011 10:22 AM

Bet $78 most of the time and check maybe 20% vs this guy

**Renton** · 12-31-2011 06:43 AM

cf

**wakeup** · 01-03-2012 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Renton

cf

Why?

We think his range is narrow pre, and his calling range on the flop is pretty narrow & strong?

**wakeup** · 01-03-2012 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Bet $78 most of the time and check maybe 20% vs this guy

why do you have to plays in this spot?

**Renton** · 01-04-2012 05:21 PM

His preflop calling range probably doesn't include any Ax lower than AQ, so he either has a mid pair or AK/set, he probably doesn't call or bet without the latter. Also combinatorically, he's not even that much more likely to have worse than AQ than he is to have AQ or better.

**wakeup** · 01-04-2012 11:44 PM

Yeah okay that all makes sense.
AQ(6) AK(8) AA(1) 88(3) 99(3)

What about TT-KK; theres 23 combos, which is huge.
Do you think an unknown mostly checks back here with these?

Either way i dont think we're gettin called twice by much that we beat, so a check is in order

12-28-2011 01:17 PM #1
wakeup View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 117 Location Oz	600nl - turn cbet Just checking up on a fairly common spot. Villain is 21/15/ 3b 12% over 110 hands Is also multitabling Hero running 21/16/ 3b 7% What range are we betting on the turn? We open wide, cbet wide, so i feel we have to bet turn for value. 1) Whats our plan on river with our range? 2) What about with A5s? Grabbed by Holdem Manager NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer SB ($600) BB ($717) Hero ($696) UTG+1 ($588) UTG+2 ($637) MP1 ($249) MP2 ($240) CO ($660) BTN ($232) Dealt to Hero Q A Hero raises to $18, fold, UTG+2 calls $18, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold FLOP ($45) 9 8 A Hero bets $30, UTG+2 calls $30 TURN ($105) 9 8 A 2 Hero ?

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12-29-2011 10:22 AM #2
Deanglow View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2007 Posts 3,196 Location lol	Bet $78 most of the time and check maybe 20% vs this guy

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12-31-2011 06:43 AM #3
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01-03-2012 06:24 AM #4
wakeup View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 117 Location Oz	Originally Posted by Renton cf Why? We think his range is narrow pre, and his calling range on the flop is pretty narrow & strong?

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01-03-2012 06:25 AM #5
wakeup View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 117 Location Oz	Originally Posted by Deanglow Bet $78 most of the time and check maybe 20% vs this guy why do you have to plays in this spot?

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01-04-2012 05:21 PM #6
Renton View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 7,473 Location Atlanta, GA, USA	His preflop calling range probably doesn't include any Ax lower than AQ, so he either has a mid pair or AK/set, he probably doesn't call or bet without the latter. Also combinatorically, he's not even that much more likely to have worse than AQ than he is to have AQ or better.

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01-04-2012 11:44 PM #7
wakeup View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 117 Location Oz	Yeah okay that all makes sense. AQ(6) AK(8) AA(1) 88(3) 99(3) What about TT-KK; theres 23 combos, which is huge. Do you think an unknown mostly checks back here with these? Either way i dont think we're gettin called twice by much that we beat, so a check is in order

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