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Old 06-24-2008, 04:19 PM     Post subject: 5NL shove or fold hand? #1 (permalink)  
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$5 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, June 24, 12:10:21 ET 2008
Table Table 165270 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: activity_ ( $4.63 USD )
Seat 5: RTBUVTNL ( $1.45 USD )
Seat 6: mlapseF ( $7.79 USD )
Seat 7: pserg777 ( $4.90 USD )
Seat 8: Bolber ( $4.11 USD )
Seat 9: cactushanni ( $3.64 USD )
Seat 10: tbvle ( $5.13 USD )
Seat 4: Hero ( $4.78 USD )
Seat 1: broeckieboy ( $5.68 USD )
Seat 3: Fooh82 ( $4.94 USD )
mlapseF posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
pserg777 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad Ah ]
Bolber folds
cactushanni folds
tbvle folds
broeckieboy folds
activity_ folds
Fooh82 folds
Hero raises [$0.16 USD]
RTBUVTNL folds
mlapseF calls [$0.14 USD]
pserg777 calls [$0.12 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 7c, 8s ]
mlapseF checks
pserg777 bets [$0.31 USD]
Hero raises [$0.80 USD]
mlapseF folds
pserg777 calls [$0.49 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
pserg777 checks
Hero bets [$1.20 USD]
pserg777 is all-In [$3.94 USD]

My read was he had the K for sure, so unless he had KK I had him but then I remembered he was BB so could have K8, KQ, AK or even 9/10 suited, especially at these stakes.

BTW, the reason my PFR was only 4xBB was because the table was incredibly tight and I wanted callers. No real read on villain because I was only 20 hands into table but he was 18/10.

Shove? Fold? Why? And I'll post results after.
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Old 06-24-2008, 05:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 06-24-2008, 05:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop: 4xBB raise IMO it's not bad AA when its foled to you in position is a hand
you want AK KQ KJ QJ to hitch a ride, let em see a flop

Flop: i would go bigger than 2.5x the donk bet, bump that shit up to $1.20
if the table is playing that extremely tight and 8 probably wouldnt
float there

Turn: Definately bet more than 1/2 pot, this is essentially a check and a
license to get reraised and that turn is a good card to bluff

It's a tough decision and a very read based one at that. Very well could be 9 10. I'm not a big fan of folding AA or 2 pair especially getting 2:1, I would look him up. But i also pay inflated prices and spew for my information calls sometimes. I dont know, call or fold or do something. Fnord has ESP against microstakes player, he could give you better insight on the turn decision.
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:02 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Squeaky_Midget1
Pre-flop: IMO it's not bad AA when its foled to you in position
in whose opinion is this ever a bad thing??

As played I'd say you have to get it all in. Your flop raise doesn't look too strong as its relatively small, as is your turn bet.

Many unknowns at this level are likely to do this with a K. Call it a cooler when he flips A8 or 78.
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 06:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop: IMO it's not bad AA when its folded to you in position
in whose opinion is this ever a bad thing??
I was speaking in terms of making a standard 4xBB raise, no need to overdo it here, he sounded meh about his PFR size, and i see nothing wrong
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