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Old 09-17-2008, 06:39 AM     Post subject: 50nl TT from bb, flop 2nd pair and gutshot, interesting turn #1 (permalink)  
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 UTG limper is 29-7 over 350 hands, and could have pretty much anything here. BB is another one of those 14-10 nit-tag fulltilt reg types. I'm probably running 16-12, I've probably raised after limpers from Button/sb/bb a couple of times this session. Flop I c-bet with possible best hand plus the gutshot outs - normal play here?
Turn I get some more outs, I'm expecting to be up against at least one flush draw and I'm probably behind. Check is standard? or bet again?

pre-flop is fairly standard - maybe I should be betting a little stronger though?

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CO ($68.85)
Button ($38.90)
Hero (SB) ($63.10)
BB ($49.25)
UTG ($40.70)
UTG+1 ($63.50)
MP1 ($123.70)
MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($101.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
UTG calls $0.50, 6 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) 7, 9, J (3 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($18) K (3 players)
bet or check?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:27 AM #2 (permalink)  
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check because otherwise you might get raised off your draw
they're obviously not going anywhere...
I mean on this board someone has a piece, so someone's sticking around to see the river

preflop I like to bet pot, so 1.75 without a limper, 2.25 with a limper, but I guess because bet pot button is just that easy/awesome
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Im not a hug fan of this c-bet because your draw doesnt have that much value and neither does your pair and this board is pretty wet with good cards for other people. I might just check fold, or maybe float and bluff a flush, but definitely not a ton of the time
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:51 PM #4 (permalink)  

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Its always difficult in a spot like this. Preflop standard, real suspicious play from UTG. As above he could have anything here, sounds pretty weak as a player 2bh.

I think a continuation bet here is problematic as it is a very dangerous flop for you OOP. An overcard and flush draw to go with potential straight draws against 2 opponents. Both the BB and UTG have big ranges here and with the texture of the flop your best off checking, after all you have only invested $2 into the pot so far, i would keep it that way.

The turn kills you completely, another overcard, another flush draw, completes a Q10 straight draw, check fold, save your money for a better spot. Both players have called pot sized bets and even if u do have the best hand, chances are at least 1 will come along with u 2 the river.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 like you could easily fire again and then definitely fire a 3rd barrel if the river bricks, otherwise you're c/f'ing the turn I think

but I'm c-c-c-c-crazy
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 Check/fold is fine. If you bet turn shove the river (sparingly)
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:18 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 ok, turn checked through and the river came good. QT or the backdoor flush and I guess I'm going to get stacked, shit like that happens sometimes. Bet small to induce a bluff - figure my line looks pretty weak until now. Or should I just open shove?

Turn: ($18) K (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

River: ($18) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $10.50,
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-20-2008, 04:58 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 I like 13 on the river. I really dont think anything you beat but sets and KJ is going to call a shove multiway and I'm pretty sure sets aren't checking that turn.

You're really not gonna stack someone unless their an idiot or you get stacked when they cooler you with QT or a flush.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:29 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 fish called $10.50 with 79, thx!
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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