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Old 03-31-2010, 02:14 AM     Post subject: 50NL, TPTK on shitty flop 5 way #1 (permalink)  
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villian is unknown(30/12/2.5 over 30 hands) This hand looks like a live 1/2NL game. I dont know how to adjust my bet sizing on this shitty board. Is c/c or even c/f good given that we are OOP and face 4 callers. This flop hits our opponents range pretty hard. I was surprised that My underbet only got one caller. Should i continue to felt BIG on this safe turn and charge his draws ruthlessly?
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K
1 fold, Hero bets $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($10) K, Q, J (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4, 3 folds

Turn: ($18) 4 (2 players)
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I struggle in spots like this versus randoms.

If he checks back on the turn, I usually bet small/reevaluate on dead rivers.

If I end up c/c the turn and a draw hits the river, sometimes I may bet/fold for ~85% pot if I think he can lay down two pair.

If I c/c turn and the river misses, I c/f sometimes and c/c other times... This has to be a leak in my game.

This advice is probably complete shit, just so you know.


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Old 03-31-2010, 03:34 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd bet/fold 2/3-3/4 every street unless an A hits


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I'd bet/fold 2/3-3/4 every street unless an A hits
can u explain why?


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Old 03-31-2010, 09:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Agree with Caddie, I b/f this 3/4 - 7/8 pot each street to protect vs. draws and get value from 1 Pair type hands and those corresponding draws.

We are ahead on this flop a fair bit and any made 2-pair hands will likely need to raise given the threatening board and a set/straight will also raise before the action dies when an A or T hits the board. Nobody I see at 50NL is bluffin 5-way.
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can u explain why?
Pretty much what Coug said.

I know this board seems scary but we do have the best hand a lot of the time and we need to protect it from the myriad of straight draws that are available. If we are beat we will at the very latest hear about it on the turn, and any hand that raises us has us crushed.

I know it sounds strange but we are essentially almost at the bottom of our c-bet range multiway with this hand (I may consider c-betting AQ here depending on some things) which is why we should be bet/folding


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