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Old 07-23-2007, 04:00 PM     Post subject: 50NL: tough spot: flop set on turn on very draw heavy board #1 (permalink)  
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 EverestPoker Game #1833050412: Table Berlin-11 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:25:12 - 2007/07/21
Seat 1: Awegi ($11.05)
Seat 2: waaa ($57.95)
Seat 3: NRKPCC ($30.09)
Seat 4: LeVince100 ($38.12)
Seat 5: itsug ($87.70)
Seat 6: Yoshin ($49.70)
Seat 7: ClubOfClubs ($51.95)
Seat 9: HERO ($50.00)
Seat 10: TokraThaan ($49.75)
waaa posts the small blind of $0.25
NRKPCC posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[ ]
LeVince100 folds
itsug raises to $2.00
Yoshin folds
ClubOfClubs folds
HERO calls $2.00
TokraThaan folds
Awegi folds
waaa folds
NRKPCC folds
*** FLOP *** [ ] (pot: $4.75)
itsug bets $4.00
HERO raises to $12.00
itsug calls $8.00
*** TURN *** [ ] [] (po: $28.75)
itsug checks
HERO ???

Very first few hands on the table. No specific reads on opp.
A part from the fact that PF I should have 3bet, how would you play the turn?
There are only 4 realistic hands where we are behind (i.e. QQ/AQ/KQ/QJ)
all other hands like AA/KK/TT/99/88/77 or JT/T9/98 or AKs/KJs we are in front. Betting here would allow us to get more money from hands we are in front, but makes us put money from hands we are behind.
Do you bet here say $20? I think check here is bad, no?
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:35 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Don't forget, even if you're behind, you have 10 outs. I like a 2/3 PSB and get it all in to a push. I also think you're up against an overpair enough of the time to make this play.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 If you don't check here, then when will you check?

It wil be much easier to extract value from hands you beat if you check turn, call/bet river UI, and you most definitely behind if you get heavy action.
 
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I can't get away from the fact that this is 50NL FR on Everest, by far the softest games I've ever seen. Without a read I assume villain is a massive tool until he prooves otherwise.
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 Massive tools show up straights or flushes a lot here if you get heavy action.
 
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:59 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Ok, fair enough. Why do we want to give the hands we beat a free card though?
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:59 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 We're likely the ones drawing.
 
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:07 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Yeah Jimmy, I can see this being a fairly easy check behind in this case...too many hands are hit by that board and while it would be nice to bet and see what action you get behind you put yourself in a tough situation if you get c/r-AI.

Check behind, see the river and go from there...if it doesn't pair the board and villain does something stupid then it could be possible to find a laydown here....if it doesn't pair the board and villain checks I could still see the possibility in just checking behind once more rather than value-bet because you are then in the same situation if you get c/r-AI.

The driving factor to this is the villain leading the flop, calling your raise and then checking the turn that completes both draws there....he is likley on Ax or something like QJ/KJ but his pfr would lead me towards him having Ax here
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 Check behind, call river.
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