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Micro2Macro
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07-30-2009, 10:45 PM
Post subject: 50nl squeezed pot - flop bet looks terrible
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Just sat down. Villain hasn't done anything out of the ordinary, only 10 hands or so.
Value in betting this flop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($50)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($30.20)
BB ($198.10)
UTG ($138.80)
MP1 ($72.50)
MP2 ($106.25)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , A
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, UTG calls $6, 1 fold
Flop: ($18.75) J , 10 , Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.50
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BankItDrew
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QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.
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wtf kind of fucked up thinking is this?
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jessyj
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Check and see cards/actions.
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Deanglow
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I'm not super excited but bet/calling is the way to go
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AFchung
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if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there
AK, TT, JJ, QQ
i see a turn card here and spike my king
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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Originally Posted by AFchung
if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there
AK, TT, JJ, QQ
i see a turn card here and spike my king
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rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?
B/C
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Deanglow
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Dude, TT and JJ are very standard hands for villain to flat in this spot
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AFchung
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
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Originally Posted by AFchung
if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there
AK, TT, JJ, QQ
i see a turn card here and spike my king
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rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?
B/C
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this has got to be a level
well you play 200NL and i dont know how the games go down here, but at 50NL everyone decides to be a policeman with their TT-QQ
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Saying he doesn't flat TT/JJ when villain is a complete unknown is well... assuming too much.
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nh sir
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
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Originally Posted by AFchung
if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there
AK, TT, JJ, QQ
i see a turn card here and spike my king
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rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?
B/C
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Saying he doesn't flat TT/JJ when villain is a complete unknown is well... assuming too much.
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I'm not super excited but bet/calling is the way to go
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can you explain this
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Deanglow
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I'd assume an unknown will call and want to continue with these hands. And this is a pretty tight range, and think about all the 22-88 he is c/f.
Board: Qd Jc Th
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.533% 39.35% 05.18% 12856 1693.00 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 55.467% 50.28% 05.18% 16428 1693.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }
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BankItDrew
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.
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wtf kind of fucked up thinking is this?
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Looks like you may need help on your game spenda.
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Fnord
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Check flop behind please and think about folding without putting any money in the pot unless you known your opponent is smoking crack.
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hangchiong
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Check flop behind please and think about folding without putting any money in the pot unless you known your opponent is smoking crack.
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checking instead of betting because we wont get enough value out of our hands?
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