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Old 07-30-2009, 10:45 PM     Post subject: 50nl squeezed pot - flop bet looks terrible #1 (permalink)  
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Just sat down. Villain hasn't done anything out of the ordinary, only 10 hands or so.

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CO ($50)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($30.20)
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UTG ($138.80)
MP1 ($72.50)
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, UTG calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($18.75) J, 10, Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.50
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:14 AM #2 (permalink)  
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QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.


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QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.
wtf kind of fucked up thinking is this?
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:18 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:05 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I'm not super excited but bet/calling is the way to go
 
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if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there

AK, TT, JJ, QQ

i see a turn card here and spike my king
 
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if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there

AK, TT, JJ, QQ

i see a turn card here and spike my king

rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?

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Dude, TT and JJ are very standard hands for villain to flat in this spot
 
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if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there

AK, TT, JJ, QQ

i see a turn card here and spike my king

rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?

B/C
this has got to be a level

well you play 200NL and i dont know how the games go down here, but at 50NL everyone decides to be a policeman with their TT-QQ

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Saying he doesn't flat TT/JJ when villain is a complete unknown is well... assuming too much.
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if you think about his UTG open + 3bet flatting range, EVERYTHING got there

AK, TT, JJ, QQ

i see a turn card here and spike my king

rly? rly?
u rly think he flats TT JJ rly?

B/C
Saying he doesn't flat TT/JJ when villain is a complete unknown is well... assuming too much.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:40 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I'm not super excited but bet/calling is the way to go
can you explain this
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:46 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I'd assume an unknown will call and want to continue with these hands. And this is a pretty tight range, and think about all the 22-88 he is c/f.

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Hand 0: 44.533% 39.35% 05.18% 12856 1693.00 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 55.467% 50.28% 05.18% 16428 1693.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }
 
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:10 PM #13 (permalink)  
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QJT flops are brutal for AA vs a 3bet pot. You have to bet here anyways.
wtf kind of fucked up thinking is this?
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Check flop behind please and think about folding without putting any money in the pot unless you known your opponent is smoking crack.
 
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:55 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Check flop behind please and think about folding without putting any money in the pot unless you known your opponent is smoking crack.
checking instead of betting because we wont get enough value out of our hands?
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