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Old 06-30-2006, 08:14 PM     Post subject: 50NL Set facing raise on turn #1 (permalink)  
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UTG ($52.75)
UTG+1 ($20.20)
MP1 ($23.45)
MP2 ($98)
MP3 ($45.25)
CO ($114.45)
Button ($8.25)
Hero ($48.75)
BB ($109.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 4.
5 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) J, 4, 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50, CO folds.

Turn: ($4.75) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB raises to $9.5, Hero ???

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Villian was 38/23 over 20 hands. This was my first orbit at the table, so I hadn't seen him in action yet.

Your move on the turn?
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:35 AM #2 (permalink)  

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tough one.. i think the only options you have is fold or reraise for a feeler and fold if he pushes back
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 i want my money in here. call, lead river hard esp if board pairs, call push. if riv is 3-6-8, reconsider and either lead smaller and entertain the idea of folding to a push or check/call.
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Old 07-06-2006, 05:38 AM #4 (permalink)  
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tough one.. i think the only options you have is fold or reraise for a feeler and fold if he pushes back
noooooo don't fold. imo 3bet > call > fold... nevvvvvvver fold.

I would like to 3bet here... I'm really not afraid of 68 or 36, should I be? If he pushes over my re-raise I'm pretty sure I instacall against 38/23.

If you just call too many bad cards can come on the river to scare you from putting more chips in.

To nit pick your preflop play, I would raise here.

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easy to put him on 36 hes in BB and just called your bet on flop with oesd then 7 comes and he decides to raise
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 call
c/r a river boat if you know opp will bet again.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:47 AM #7 (permalink)  
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c/r a river boat if you know opp will bet again.
And if we don't fill up what do you think?

Do you think we're beat here on the turn? I really don't think so...

Does anyone here 3bet this turn? This is what I was initially thinking but is this a bad idea?

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I'd make it 22 (call a push obv) and stick the rest in on the river.
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 id like to say im not folding this ever, and i dont think i am
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easy to put him on 36 hes in BB and just called your bet on flop with oesd then 7 comes and he decides to raise
he's 38/23. crappy two pairs do the same thing.
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 i dunno whether i'd 3-bet it or not. i was trying to eliminate 3-betting as much as I possibly could because I think it tips your hand big time, but i need to learn when its good to add it back in.

I think 3 betting is fine here, or calling and leading river (calling push), or check-raising river if you think he'll bet. i'd change my river actions around a little possibly depending on the card.
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