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sil693

04-21-2009, 10:21 PM Post subject: 50NL river decisions.

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villain is 61/11 but thats only over 20 hands so its not too meaningful but obviously hes loose and no goot. i think my cbet could have been a little bigger looking back. on the river i have just over a psb left, as does villain. question here really is bet or check? every single draw on the flop has missed (unless he has JQhh) and i assume he'd raise AK, maybe A10 pre, so I can't see how I'm beat, unless he has A8 or a weird set, both of which likely raise due to the hearts - although again no reads to certify that.

i thought my options were either bet/call ~$20 or c/c any bet he throws out. the problem with c/c seems to be that I may miss out of he checks behind some gay A, or "value" bets something like $10 with a worse hand.

this may be the longest thought process for what is more than likely a standard hand.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG durrr10 ($45.00)
UTG+1 atlwindsurf ($59.45)
MP1 POCKETACESOK ($63.95)
MP2 jarvis2525 ($40.30)
CO Filibert ($63.35)
BTN taylorweb ($48.35)
SB Hero ($50.00)
BB muirtonivich ($58.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is SB

5 folds, taylorweb calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, taylorweb calls $2

Flop:

($5.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, taylorweb calls $3.50

Turn:

($12.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, taylorweb calls $8

River:

($28.50, 2 players)
Hero ($36)?

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villain is 34/11/1.4 over 130 hands. I dont normally set mine OOP vs 1 player but lolminraises. question here is how to get value from his worse hands on the river. he has ~2/3 psb on river, do you prefer shipping it in or c/c? i assume if we check and he shoves we call? although I guess its hard for him to have flopped 2 pair as 109 and 10J are unlikely holdings.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG atlwindsurf ($59.45)
UTG+1 ricey23 ($39.50)
MP DaHbka ($51.00)
CO AggroFold ($9.25)
BTN jglsd1 ($9.25)
SB Hero ($51.50)
BB Alm__i ($41.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 7 players) Hero is SB

1 fold, ricey23 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop:

($2.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, ricey23 bets $1.50, Hero raises to $5.50, ricey23 calls $4

Turn:

($13.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.50, ricey23 calls $9.50

River:

($32.50, 2 players)
Hero ($35.50)?

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badgers

04-22-2009, 12:14 AM

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1 just bet/fold like $18

2 ugh superlame. ummm. I guess c/f since he's fairly passive and will probs not turn 2pair hands into a bluff on the river. Lame spot though.

But in hand 2 my biggest problem is your reference to setmining. You have TENS! omg TENS!!!! I am always calling a 4x raise in this spot let alone minraises. With villain being fishy as well I fall off my chair in anticipation of seeing a flop with tens here.

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04-22-2009, 12:41 AM

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1 just bet/fold like $18

if he shoves AI its a minraise. still b/f?

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But in hand 2 my biggest problem is your reference to setmining. You have TENS! omg TENS!!!! I am always calling a 4x raise in this spot let alone minraises. With villain being fishy as well I fall off my chair in anticipation of seeing a flop with tens here.

yeah I guess I made it sound like that. im always calling w 1010, i was just expecting people to say "dont setmine OOP". never folding vs this playargh.

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04-22-2009, 12:45 AM

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yeah you're right I fucked up. I think you need to bet turn harder to set up a river shove. I guess just shove anyway now but you'll get called a lot wider if it's not an overbet.

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04-22-2009, 01:52 PM

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hand 1: bigger on turn please, as played bet/call $20-22 on river.

hand 2: vils not got a full stack, if you bet a little more on the flop and specifically the turn river would be an easy shove, as played meh, your options are put him in for his last $23, or c/f, the guys a big fish so I just put him in.

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04-22-2009, 03:04 PM

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i fail epic at analysing these hands

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