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12-10-2008, 11:19 PM
Post subject: 50NL QQ vs. a TAG squeezing my LP raise
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Villain is running 12/10, no reads
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($9.25)
MP3 ($118.60)
CO ($50)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($21.30)
BB ($50)
UTG+1 ($16.65)
MP1 ($44.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q
UTG+1 checks, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $2, BB raises to $9.50, 1 fold, Hero?
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know his 3bet % stat. Calling is always good, I prefer a bet against people who 3bet wide/often.
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Deanglow
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swiggidy
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So you don't have 3bet %, what's his AF? IF he's likely to cbet the flop then I call, plan on calling any non-A or K flop and getting it in on the turn. There isn't much room for a 12/10 to 3bet light, so might as well keep his range wide. However, if you don't have any reads, is that 12/10 really worthwhile?
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I just recently put 3b% on my hud because I want to have more information when this kind of hand comes up
I don't have AF on my HUD, I have AFq which was around 50
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bigred
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You can't load these stats off the popup window? I rarely use the table HUD for any information other than who I can steal from.
I think a call or fold without any real information. Shove seems reckless.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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badgers
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This really should be a shove unless vill is absurdly nitty.
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Originally Posted by bigred
You can't load these stats off the popup window? I rarely use the table HUD for any information other than who I can steal from.
I think a call or fold without any real information. Shove seems reckless.
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I edited my cash HUD and now my pop-up stats don't work :/ even though everything looks like my tournament hud where pop-up stats work
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nutsinho
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well dont call or fold
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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eh i'm sorry but a lot of these 50nl types have 1% 3bet and against them I'm sethunting every time, definitely not raising or folding.
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set hunting getting 7 to 1? is that some kind of a joke?
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LuckySlevin
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if we'd 4bet this and he shoves what then?
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Originally Posted by LuckySlevin
if we 4bet and he shoves, what then?
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understanding pot-odds and equity (pokerstove) would answer this for you.
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LuckySlevin
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Is KK+ AK, a fair ranging for villian if he shoves?
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mcatdog
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by LuckySlevin
Is KK+ AK, a fair ranging for villian if he shoves?
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I'd say so
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if we raise pot here we're already committed and we have less than PSB left so anything less than a shove has no point
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LuckySlevin
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by LuckySlevin
Is KK+ AK, a fair ranging for villian if he shoves?
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I'd say so |
Thank you so snap call if he shoves as we have 40% equity, and are getting well over the required pot odds.
This is more or less the same for any PP, the lower ones drop a percent or so but all hover around 38% equity. So if we were 4 betting as a bluff, and got shoved. With any PP it would be right to call?
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bigspenda73
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or you could just figure out how to exploit someone 3betting a range wider than KK+/AK but only 5bet shoving KK+/AK
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nutsinho
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Originally Posted by iopq
set hunting getting 7 to 1? is that some kind of a joke?
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is this thread some kind of joke?
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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Ltrain
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Even for a 12/10, they will squeeze lighter than KK+, AK. I agree with a push here. If he wasn't squeezing, make a note of it for next time.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by iopq
set hunting getting 7 to 1? is that some kind of a joke?
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a) didn't notice he 3bet so big.
b) 7.8:1.
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Deanglow
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anyone who says fold needs to drastically rethink no limit texas holdem
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