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Old 09-29-2006, 04:15 AM     Post subject: 50NL QQ in BB... #1 (permalink)  
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No read on Butch,
did i play this hand ok???


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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 28, 23:33:24 ET 2006
Table Table 98150 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: ultra_ungar2000 ( $49.90 )
Seat 4: indyblitz ( $50.05 )
Seat 5: krystal97 ( $120.60 )
Seat 6: MichaelLIFE ( $65.02 )
Seat 3: Boett13 ( $61.25 )
Seat 1: Shredder88 ( $46.90 )
Seat 7: braileanu ( $9.55 )
Seat 10: Mccoy8889 ( $64.10 )
Seat 9: Butch285 ( $48.39 )
Seat 8: IshallBet ( $31.75 )
Mccoy8889 posts small blind [$0.25].
ultra_ungar2000 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ultra_ungar2000 [ Qc Qs ]
Boett13 folds.
Shredder88 has left the table.
indyblitz folds.
krystal97 calls [$0.50].
MichaelLIFE folds.
braileanu calls [$0.50].
IshallBet folds.
Butch285 calls [$0.50].
Mccoy8889 calls [$0.25].
ultra_ungar2000 raises [$2.50].
krystal97 calls [$2.50].
braileanu folds.
Butch285 calls [$2.50].
Mccoy8889 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3s, 9c ]
ultra_ungar2000 bets [$6].
krystal97 folds.
Butch285 calls [$6].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
ultra_ungar2000 bets [$8].
Butch285 raises [$16].
ultra_ungar2000?

What would u do...bad fold or good play???
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Guys, this is my housemate, help him out plz. thnx
 
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 in all likelihood one pair is toast against that line by a villain. Good fold.
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:57 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 It is very hard to put a range on an unknown min-raiser in this hand, since you know nothing of his play. I have to learn how to fold better. In this spot what I have been doing is call and c/c a smaller bet on the river. Something is just grained into my head that I could still have the best hand. It's like I look for everything that they could be betting that I beat.

Over my last 5k hands, AA KK QQ are in my top 5 losers. Sure, some of it is varience - I took a few massive beats with them, however - some of it has to be with situations like this. 9/10 when I call here, I'm beat. There have been a couple of times I'll see air or something silly like an under pair.. but I think not folding is a big leak I have to fix.

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Old 09-29-2006, 06:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Raise to $4 pre-flop. Your turn lead is a little weak, less than 1/2 pot... I think I lead for $12 and fold to any raise. As played I fold to the minraise, as tough as it is.
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i agree that if you're going to bet the turn it should be more. you've got to be wondering though about what he is flat calling you with on the flop. his line is the classic monster line. good fold.
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How was the tables action ur image tight/maniac? The table?
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How was the tables action ur image tight/maniac? The table?
Your image is not important at 50nl unless it is maniac, because otherwise most of the table is not noticing. Have wildbob buy you pokertracker buddy, least he can do. Plus rip why are you asking a question he obviously doesn't know the answer to?

But yes good fold, I'm glad you have learned to make this fold.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:54 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I already have PokerTracker, and yes wildbob and I already discuss hands we play online and live. I had no PokerHud details on Butch, but wildbob thought that preflop was fine, post flop was fine, but the turn he would check there to see what Butch does. Seeing Butch play in subsequent hands made me regret my QQ fold, but that's poker, we use the information we have before us.

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Old 09-29-2006, 04:39 PM #11 (permalink)  
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hes repping at least trips

i have a hard time folding here, i probably call and try to showdown cheap
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I raise to $4 preflop and lead flop for approx 3/4 pot. Fold to raise at that point....
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I wish I hadn't read the other responses before posting, but bad fold. You raised less than 4xbb + 1xbb per limper. You bet about half the pot. Those are (more often) signs of AK/AQ. Followed up with another weak(ish) turn bet. If was any good and had a monster he'd push on the river. Either you thinkk he's slow playing the heck out of AA/KK or he has 33/44 or 89/9T.

I'd have called and led the river for $10. (or possibly checked if a A/K hit)
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