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Old 07-31-2007, 01:14 PM     Post subject: 50NL: KK line check? #1 (permalink)  
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 EverestPoker Game #1871983189: Table Berlin-17 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:07:37 - 2007/07/30
Seat 1: muskielunge ($9.10)
Seat 2: bruskovitz ($13.59)
Seat 3: RoyMakkay ($19.55)
Seat 4: Laed ($42.50)
Seat 6: Matzhatz ($23.75)
Seat 7: Murois ($7.45)
Seat 8: Hero ($53.90)
Seat 9: BasN ($48.00)
Seat 10: cortbass ($50.93)
muskielunge posts the small blind of $0.25
bruskovitz posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[ ]
RoyMakkay folds
Laed folds
Matzhatz folds
Murois calls $0.50
Hero raises to $2.50
BasN folds
cortbass raises to $8.75
muskielunge folds
bruskovitz folds
Murois calls $6.95 and is all-in
Hero raises to $24.50
cortbass calls $15.75
*** FLOP *** [ ] (pot: $57.2)
Hero ???

cortbass was 61/44/3. He was a 3bet maniac
I was wondering what do we do here on the flop? Shoving, we'll be called by any Q, but also by AA or JJ and maybe ATo. Do you shove? I don't think we can get away from the pot with all that money in it, can we?
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:02 PM #2 (permalink)  
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That flop sucks.

I don't see any way to get away from this hand though. And with the wide range that cortbass has, he could just as easily have nothing as something.

PUSH.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Is there any other option other then to push with so little behind in relation to the pot?
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:12 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Against any decent player, you could put AK, AA, QQ, JJ (maybe 1010 and AQ) in his range. Against this type of maniac, you can add a shitload of hands that you crush, so I think you have a lot of value in shoving this.

What do you know about his post flop play? It's important to know if he continues betting like a maniac. I see value in check/calling a shove if you're sure he would bluff at it.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:33 PM #5 (permalink)  
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That flop doesn't suck. Especially against 3bet monkey.

It's easy all-in, because you have only half-pot behind, half stack comitted preflop and possible AK, Ax and other drawing crap against you. Folding that hand in that pot would be absurd.

That's to big of a pot to risk check/check with vulnerable hand. Don't trap here. Go ahead and push, there's no other choice.
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