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Turska
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10-23-2006, 06:05 AM
Post subject: 50NL KK Button.
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50 NL.
No hand history available. No real reads except Villain has
been very quiet and tried to limp in some pots. Villain has not
raised any pot in 3 orbits.
Both have full stacks 50 dollars.
Turska is dealt [KsKc] Button.
Blinds are posted. Several limpers including villain at UTG+2.
Turska raises to 2.5. Villain minraises to 5. All folds except
Turska calls. (I guess I should have reraised to 15).
Flop [Td,2c,8d]
Villain checks
Turska bets 5 dollars (I did not want to scare him so I bet 1/2 pot)
Villain raises allin.
I figured that he do not have TT, 88,22 with that weird min-raise PF.
So I put him on FL draw (AKs,AQs) or big PP.
What would you do?
T.
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I think your read on villians hand is correct. If villian is an unknown I cant give credit for AA and have to call. If I know villian is uber weaktight and is likely to minraise AA pf/checkraise all in on flop (Like about 40% of stars NL playersl lol) I might consider laying this down. Even then I think you might be getting odds to call.
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AHiltz
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limp + min raise preflop and a check push on the flop with the fact you haven't seen him raise before = AA 99.9% of the time IMO.
Be thankful he was stupid enough to push the flop and not raise an amount that you had to call. Get out now and find a better spot.
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Miffed22001
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wow reraise preflop.
I think you see JJ here, perhaps AA if opp is really bad, but TT is faily likely imo.
Id call no doubt.
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biondino
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I think AA is often played like this, and you're right, you needed to re-raise pre-flop IF you think you can fold to a push.
I don't know if he has JJ or QQ quite often enough to call this.
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phantom_lord
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reraise pf.
I'd prob call here.
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martindcx1e
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I just want to make sure everyone is aware that a "very quiet" player limp/re-raised pre-flop here.
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KoRnholio
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AA most likely. Anyone bad enough to limp then minraise often has AA here.
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phantom_lord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
I just want to make sure everyone is aware that a "very quiet" player limp/re-raised pre-flop here.
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ok ok. He's most likely got aces, and he's played them badly so he really doesn't deserve our stack. Fold.
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
I just want to make sure everyone is aware that a "very quiet" player limp/re-raised pre-flop here.
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HH isnt 100% clear. If UTG+2 limped with AA behind a limper, he sucks and is a fish anyway. Add to that IMO its just a likely to be TT/JJ passive who darent raise preflop but will donkminiraise (new term  ) a preflop raise anyway.
If UTG+2 was the first to limp in i 3 ebt anyhow and fold to his push probably, but same again, he turns JJ/QQ/TT here a little too much for me to fold KK that often
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Turska
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
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Ya you guys were right. My mistake was not to
reraise preflop to 15 and fold to push.
I called and he had AA. Lesson learned here.
T.
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ApocalypsPLZ
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Bet more (8 works) on flop to make your decision easier.
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