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BluffCheck
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08-20-2009, 10:08 AM
Post subject: 50NL AKo vs 2 loosey gooseys
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Right before this hand, a similar situation happened where there were 3 limpers and I made it 3.5, both of them called and I folded on flop. This hand I decided to make it slightly larger for value since they don't seem to like folding. What should we do here? Are we betting for value? (lol?)
UTG: 73/0/1.7 over 34 hands
UTG+1: 65/26/1.7 over 31 hands
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($29.10)
UTG+1 ($33.45)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($7.25)
Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($50)
SB ($50)
BB ($40.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero bets $4, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($13.25) 8 , 8 , 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero ???
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BankItDrew
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at best you are ahead and up against 4 - 12 outs so you have to bet here if you think you're ahead.
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badgers
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yeah bet for value/protection
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pokertrainer.se
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sweden
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Agree, bet for value/protection.
Against these opponents you have a good hand in average, but vulnerable.
If both call I might check for pot control on the turn and be careful if someone bets the river since they are passive.
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BluffCheck
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Now what? If they called a bet on that flop surely they are calling another bet on that turn? Should we check for pot control?
Should I have made it bigger on the flop? At the time I thought that half-pot gets them to fold overcards and such, and if i made it any larger they're still not folding their pp's/draws? And if i bet like 10 it's kind of committing?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($29.10)
UTG+1 ($33.45)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($7.25)
Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($50)
SB ($50)
BB ($40.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero bets $4, 3 folds, UTG calls $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, 1 fold
Flop: ($13.25) 8 , 8 , 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7.50, UTG calls $7.50, 1 fold
Turn: ($28.25) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks
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BankItDrew
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the cbet size is fine... now we are done with this hand
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Girlfriend: Why are the werewolves more important than living life?!
Girlfriend: Are you on the forums doing the werewolves again?
Girlfriend: Soo... you forgot to run that errand, but you had time to werewolf? Wtf?
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Azazel
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
the cbet size is fine... now we are done with this hand 
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rly? <1/2PSB seems low to me
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BankItDrew
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Yeah it's smaller than my norm... $10 might be ideal.
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Girlfriend: Why are the werewolves more important than living life?!
Girlfriend: Are you on the forums doing the werewolves again?
Girlfriend: Soo... you forgot to run that errand, but you had time to werewolf? Wtf?
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7.50 is > 1/2 of 13.25, basic math ftw
nh, check it down unless you hit tptk
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