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Old 03-30-2008, 09:32 PM     Post subject: 50NL: AK flops 2pr on dangerous board #1 (permalink)  
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 1 rotation on villain. He had acted a little stationey, limping/calling raises a lot (50% of hands).

How would you play this assuming a solid read of 'station' on villain, then how would you play this differently (if at all) given our very weak read of station?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) A, 9, K (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, Button calls $3.25.

Turn: ($11.25) T (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button raises to $17, Hero ... ?
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Old 03-31-2008, 04:39 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Looks good so far.

Really hard spot... I have to be honest, I'm not sure what the right move is.

Has villain gotten out of hand postflop at all? This sort of read would help a lot. I'd probably donk call then re-evaluate on turn after checking.


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 wonder if he flat calls suited connectors here? I think Axs/AK/AQ/AJ are more likely.

you are behind to a flush, but the ace, king and 9 are out so it's unlikely that villain holds two spades.

You're behind to the straight, wonder if villain calls the gutshot on the flop - or if JQ is part of calling range pre-flop. Maybe.

I think TT folds the flop, so does any other pp. KK/AA raise pre or raise flop.

In order of likelihood I put villain on AT/any A plus Qspades/A9/99.

I don't think villain is folding this turn often, but you may have some fold equity. If you call there are loads of scare cards for you - means you'll likely have some uncomfortable play to make on the river.

I fold or push, almost certainly push
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Looks good so far.

Really hard spot... I have to be honest, I'm not sure what the right move is.

Has villain gotten out of hand postflop at all? This sort of read would help a lot. I'd probably donk call then re-evaluate on turn after checking.
Yeah, like I said I've got near no reads on villain -- he hadn't gotten out of hand postflop in a rotation.

Assuming all you knew about villain was that he's a classic loose passive pre & postflop, what range would give him given his turn aggression?

Glad to hear I'm not the only one having trouble with this one.

FWIW, I pushed.
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personally, i fold a lot to ppl's sudden turn aggression on flush board. In this spot, i dont really think he would raise you with less than set if he is a passive station.
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personally, i fold a lot to ppl's sudden turn aggression on flush board. In this spot, i dont really think he would raise you with less than set if he is a passive station.
So you fold that if you've got a solid read of loose passive?

What about virtually unknown, with only one rotation's read?
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yes, i fold if he is loose passive. Against an unknown, i probably still fold this oop and look for another favorable spot. In general, i hate to shove over ppl's turn raise on flush board except that your villain is a loose aggressive or maniac guy( if so, i c/r shove on the turn). Hmmm, i'm a folding station in many tough spots . However, my style did save me tons of money in the past and boosted my winning rate in my games.
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personally, i fold a lot to ppl's sudden turn aggression on flush board. In this spot, i dont really think he would raise you with less than set if he is a passive station.
So you fold that if you've got a solid read of loose passive?

What about virtually unknown, with only one rotation's read?
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