So i moved to 50nl and have around 80k hands played w/ just 1ptbb/100hands and its obvious is not what i was hoping for. as most of you know i am a tight straighforward ABC player and that worked for me up to the 50nl.

Biggest problem i see ( there are more i am sure but this the obvious one in my opinion) in my play at the 50nl is the 3bet spots and 4bet spots.

OOP i dont flat 3bets w/ anything else but 22-QQ if i get at least 15:1, if i get less, i even fold QQ.

IP ( when i get blinds 3 betting me) i flat w/ AJs, AQs sometimes besides PP.

my 4bet range is just AK, AKs, KK+ and i always fold to a 5bet ( besides AA obvious) and even fold KK sometimes if i dont feel he can 5bet worse.

i only 3bet QQ+, AK and from the blinds i add Axs and that all.


for the last 10k hands i started 3betting AJo, AQo,( i call PFR w/ AQs, AJs,) TT+, AK when i am LP vs MP/EP and just QQ+, AK when i am MP vs EP and in the blinds i started 3betting Kxs also.

as for flatting 3bets, OOP i changed nothing, but IP i started flatting SC, suited broadways and ocasional some Axs.

i have seen some improvements , but i dont know if its because of a good run or because they are good changes.


i am asking your advice in my 4betting range, my 4bet flatting range , my OOP 3bet flatting range and if changes i made in my 3bet/flatting 3bets IP range are ok. we assume all this plays are vs the average 50nl player, not the extremes ( nits or maniacs). any advice from 50nl+ winning players is welcome in any part of the 50nl game not just 3bet/4bet spots.