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Old 06-08-2006, 11:47 PM     Post subject: 50NL AA against Fish with nasty flop #1 (permalink)  
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Heyas,

This hand came up today villan was active VPIP 45% but didnt raise much. I noticed they couldnt lay a hand down even to big raises. Hes called with suited connectors, pp's and high cards. As you can see i raised enough to isolate ( I knew he'd call) but to my horror saw the flop and the 1/2 pot size bet.

Whats the chance im good here? I told myself when he called the raise id play for stacks here but I just couldnt bring myself to do it. Is this weak here?

I was thinking PP KK-JJ or any combination of suited cards just got 2 pair/trips and his bet to me screamed "raise me please im going to take your stack! Even if I called here what card on the turn is going to help me out here? Should I just have shoved?


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FullTiltPoker Game #698822316: Table Crestline - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:30:30 ET - 2006/06/08
Seat 1: bmullet23 ($50)
Seat 2: jays9293 ($59.70)
Seat 3: SpecOps63 ($59.20)
Seat 4: Rnice ($51.90)
Seat 5: Kiluah ($49.30)
Seat 6: Mr_white25 ($198.95)
Seat 7: General Pyre ($47.75)
Seat 8: shakabuku ($46.75)
Seat 9: herik54555 ($18.50)
bmullet23 posts the small blind of $0.25
jays9293 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kiluah [Ah Ac]
SpecOps63 raises to $2
Rnice calls $2
Kiluah raises to $10
Mr_white25 folds
General Pyre folds
shakabuku folds
herik54555 folds
bmullet23 folds
jays9293 folds
SpecOps63 calls $8
Rnice folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc Js Kd]
SpecOps63 bets $10
Kiluah has 15 seconds left to act
Kiluah folds
Uncalled bet of $10 returned to SpecOps63
SpecOps63 wins the pot ($21.65)
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I think you can go either way with this. It's not a weak fold, but I'd rather Raise it up and see what happens from there. I'd make it 25. If he pushes, I toss. If he calls I'll re-evaluate on the turn.
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Old 06-09-2006, 08:42 AM #3 (permalink)  
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No matter what you do, you're +EV on the hand since you raised so much pre flop. The trick is to minimize the loss and maximize the gain post flop so you have the biggest +EV.

Do you know his flop aggression frequency and pre flop raise stats? I might call and try for cheap showdown, would rarely raise (do worse hands call a raise, or is it purely for "info?"). Folding is ok too, and likely the best of the three (just noticed he raised pre flop). I'd look at his aggression stats before doing anything though.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I think you can go either way with this. It's not a weak fold, but I'd rather Raise it up and see what happens from there. I'd make it 25. If he pushes, I toss. If he calls I'll re-evaluate on the turn.
Don't do this. If you put 70% of your stack in the pot and then fold you probably played it wrong.

Retro69,

This is a very easy fold.
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Old 06-09-2006, 09:52 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 you only beat ak

you are crushed by JJ, QQ, KK

TT has a big redraw.

TT+JJ+QQ+KK= 24 possible holdings

AK= 8 possible holdings

you are 3:1 here which makes this a clear fold.
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Old 06-09-2006, 06:02 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Without the reads on his post flop aggression, I would go with the preflop reraise as a good indicator of a high PPs, especially KK or QQ. In which case, I fold up like a cheap suit on this hand. All in all, just a damn lousy flop for you.
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