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Staresy
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05-16-2006, 08:59 PM
Post subject: 50NL - A9o in the SB - raised by an uber lagg
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Full House
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed)
BB ($46.75)
UTG ($42.25)
MP1 ($42.90)
Ripptyde ($71)
CO ($20.20)
Button ($50)
Staresy ($83.50)
Preflop: Staresy is SB with 9 A
2 folds, Ripptyde raises to $2.5, 2 folds, Staresy ...
Rippy has been lagging it up since he sat down. For a tightie like me, do I want to look to play a marginal hand here OoP or should I consider my range to be way ahead here? Re-raising an option for anyone?
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Lukie
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mcatdog
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If you want to play the hand, make it $10, don't call. Folding is probably better.
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bair
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i reraise. its 7-handed against a wild lag, your hand is probably good preflop, and real good if you get a piece of the flop.
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Lukie
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you'll have many, many ++++++++EV spots to play back at him.
This isn't one of them.
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Renton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lukie
you'll have many, many ++++++++EV spots to play back at him.
This isn't one of them.
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Just because someone is lagg don't mean they don't ever have good hands.
Play back at laggs with non-dominated hands like 65s/AK/JJ/T8s.
Against bad laggs I just make top pair and call down their ridiculous bluffs.
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mcatdog
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Originally Posted by Renton
Play back at laggs with non-dominated hands like 65s/AK/JJ/T8s.
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Against Rippy 65 and T8 are just as likely to be dominated as A9 is.
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Renton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
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Originally Posted by Renton
Play back at laggs with non-dominated hands like 65s/AK/JJ/T8s.
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Against Rippy 65 and T8 are just as likely to be dominated as A9 is. |
When you play hands like 65 and T8 you don't give a shit if you are dominated, because you aren't gettings stacked by 66 with better kicker.
AA with a better kicker is a completely different story.
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Lukie
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think about your position, how much money you have to put in, how much money he HAS put in, and which hands (that he holds) that he's going to give you good action on.
Trust me A8o isn't one of them.
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Lukie
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maybe i underestimate the donkness of rippy
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mcatdog
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Well clearly the purpose isn't to get action from A8, it's to just take down the pot preflop. However from what I've read of Rippy's hand histories that he's posted here, he calls big raises way too loosely so I think you're far better off just punishing him when you have the goods. For example, IIRC there was a tournament hand where a 12 BB short stack raised to 6 BB, Rippy called with 45s and doubled up the guy's big pair when the flop had three low cards one of which was a four or a five.
I think making this play with 65s is as bad if not worse than doing it with A9o against him. Those are implied odds hands and when more than 10% of the stacks are going in preflop your implied odds go down the shitter.
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andy-akb
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Rippy is playing $50nl? I ahve no idea how he plays in cash games, I would like to think its different than his tourney play, but anyways I dont think this is a hand you play back against him with unless you have a solid read on his raising standards from this position. As has been said, find a better spot to play back at him in, you are going to be OOP the whole time against a LAG with a hand that you wont really know where you stand.
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