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Old 09-28-2009, 05:55 PM     Post subject: 50nl - 5bet jamming AK #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is 18/15 over 166, multitabling, been really aggro post, has a 42% ATS, and has already 4bet me once on another table - to which he saw me fold. (This was CO vs BU earlier I believe). He has folded to 6/10 3bets thus far.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
2 folds, MP1 checks, 1 fold, MP3 bets $2.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.50, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $18, Hero raises to $60.10

Standard?

I considered flatting pre due to the hands potential to flop nicely + the fact we dominate alot of Ax in his iso range that I would just fold out by 3betting pre unless he decides to 4bet spazz.

His last 4bet was also this size fwiw.
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Absolutely fine/ standard. Particularly good because of history and the fact that there is a poster so he should be raising wider so you should 3bet wider and if he knows this he can 4bet bluff more often. His 4bet is too large if he intends on folding but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing since he can just be bad and then we win more money!
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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^yea what he said
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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18/15 over 166....He has folded to 6/10 3bets thus far.
wow 50s really aggro....faces 3bets 50% of the time he opens?

This hand is pretty much solved by the abcd theorem. Just plan ahead. Before 3betting ask "am i folding to a 4b?" if the answer is no then proceed 3betting, if the answer is yes just flat it. Also as badgers mentioned the history seems good to 3b/stack this hand.
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 Yeah my plan was to 3bet/jam and I felt pretty good about it given the dynamic. I should have probably mentioned that I'm like 20/17 and have been stealing/3betting a bit.

Just wanted to check with you guys who are more experienced to see if this is an appropriate spot to 3bet/jam, so thank you for clarification on this hand.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:56 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'm pretty happy shoving here... given history, I wouldn't be surprised if he folded.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:18 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 for my own selfish purposes - i have trouble connecting equity calculations with pot/stack sizes and EV in situations where we are betting. in this spot, we shove $60 over roughly 26. we are giving 2.3ish:1 against (this is probably inaccurate) a range of TT+,AKs,Ako which we are 43%-56% against. how much dead money has to be in the pot for an AK shove to be at least break even assuming he folds none of his range? does this change if we know he 4bets TT+,AK but only calls a shove with QQ+? (against which AKs is 34-65)

i have a terrible history of shoving AK at these stakes (this is obviously related to the fact that i have to ask the above questions).

obviously my comments are pretty invalid then, but for what it's worth i think shoving is warranted here. if he has proven to be aggro and seen you fold to a 4b in the recent past.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:33 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 Old HH, but don't see what else you could do really. Uber standard.
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