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swiggidy

09-27-2006, 07:03 PM Post subject: 50NL - 3 folds

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I dropped 4 buy-ins at 50NL. I felt like I was getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly. Flop monster, everyone folds. Flop 2nd nuts, loose to nuts. Maybe it's variance, I don't know, I don't think I've done anything that wrong. I'm going back to SnGs to clear the PokerStars bonus and take a break from ring.

Anyway, here are two folds that maybe I lost value on? They seemed pretty standard to me.

Hand 1: No reads at the time. He couldn't have had any on me either.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $50.65
UTG+1: $54
UTG+2: $29.50
MP1: $49.30
MP2: $60.50
MP3: $48.50
CO: $57.95
Button: $15.60
SB: $70.75
hero: $49.45

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is BB with K

UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, SB checks, hero raises to $1.5, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.

Flop: 6

($4, 2 players)
hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: A

($12, 2 players)
hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 5

($12, 2 players)
hero bets $5, UTG+1 raises to $20, hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $15 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $22

Hand 2:
mp3 is 41/7 after 50 hands

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.50
UTG+1: $41.05
hero: $50
MP1: $31.55
MP2: $40.45
MP3: $40.30
CO: $55
Button: $23.50
SB: $51.10
BB: $27.75

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is UTG+2 with J

2 folds, hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q

($7.75, 3 players)
BB checks, hero bets $6, MP3 calls, BB folds.

Turn: 9

($19.75, 2 players)
hero checks, MP3 bets $14, hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $14 returned to MP3.

Results:
Final pot: $19.75

Hand 3:oh, and a 3rd, this just happened...
only 25 hands with villain, 27\0\2

Do I just throw my cards in the air and fold on the turn? Ughh

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7
UTG+1: $60.45
UTG+2: $32.40
MP1: $51.75
MP2: $9.75
MP3: $41
CO: $52.50
Button: $18.85
hero: $51.95
BB: $65.05

Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is SB with K

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, hero raises to $2.75, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 6

($11.5, 4 players)
hero bets $7.5, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 8

($26.5, 2 players)
hero checks, UTG+1 bets $15, hero calls.

River: 9

($56.5, 2 players)
hero checks, UTG+1 is all-in $34.95, hero folds

{EDIT, forgot to change the subject. Hand 3 came while I was writing}

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ripjohngotti

09-27-2006, 07:10 PM

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All of these hands you played solid aggressive but folded because your running bad.

Hand 1 looks easy fold the way you played it. Bet about 6/7 on turn as a feeler.

Hand 2 could give a reason for folding. Is this guy new, sometimes these guys like to come to the table firing at scare cards when you've showed weakness, they've got aq with a diamond and push you out.

Hand 3 easy fold the way you played it.

Try to raise a bit more preflop especially on hand 2/3.

What do you want me to say I see nothing drastically wrong with any of these hands.
Your definately playing these hands more tight then aggressive not saying its a bad thing becauase of you running bad.

I do like how the topic says 2 folds, when its actually 3. Definately will get more responses this way. Great advertising.

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LeFou

09-27-2006, 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

What do you want me to say

"Goodbye".

swiggidy

09-27-2006, 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

What do you want me to say I see nothing drastically wrong with any of these hands.
Your definately playing these hands more tight then aggressive not saying its a bad thing becauase of you running bad.

I think the opposite is true. If I was running better I would have folded the turn in Hand 3. If I was getting lots of opportunities for $$ I would have felt good about laying these down and finding a better spot.

LeFou

09-27-2006, 07:19 PM

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I agree that villain will show AQ or similar enough times to make a call profitable there.

1 & 3 are tough folds but probably right. The way fnord's been talking recently, though, I'd like to hear his thoughts on those.

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09-27-2006, 07:23 PM

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I go broke in hand two with 10 outs to the nuts. I push. What's the saying? If you didn't lose the most with a flopped set you played it wrong?

Hand one and three look okay to me postflop.

Preflop you gotta pop it more though. $1.5 on hand one is WEAK in the face of limpers. Make it $3 or $3.5. Hand three goes to $3.5 or $4 PF for me. I have been opening for $2.50 at these same tables and still get action.

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ripjohngotti

09-27-2006, 07:23 PM

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Quote:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

Yeah, in hand three the check call is the worst move in that situation.

I make them too and flat call min raises on flop. Pr0bably the biggest leak.

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AHiltz

09-27-2006, 07:35 PM

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Hand 1 is bad. PF raise is too weak. Keep your standard opener at $2, and add bb for every limper, so make this $3-3.5 to go.

River bet is weak. He knows you fear the A on the turn IMO.

Hand 2 he senses weakness on the turn. Do you really think he bets that large with a made flush? I think he has Ad here with a draw to the flush 90% of the time.

Hand 3 looks good

swiggidy

09-27-2006, 07:48 PM

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I have no idea what happened pre-flop in hand one. My standard opening is $2, after that many limpers I would probably go to $3 if not more depending on the table. The hand would play way different post flop.

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09-27-2006, 07:49 PM

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Raise more pre-flop in 1 & 3.

1. Lead turn, fold to raise. Checking the turn is begging him to push you off your hand.

2. I'm probably going broke here. I might check/push the turn and give him a tough decision if he doesn't have the nut flush.

3. I think I lead the turn for $13, fold to a push. Tough call though.

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{EDIT, forgot to change the subject. Hand 3 came while I was writing}

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Turska

09-28-2006, 06:37 AM

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Hand 1: Preflop is asking trouble with KK.
Hand2: I could push this with 10 outs. Board is
really scary though both fl and str8 draws. I think fold
is not so bad either its a coin flip at best. Tough decision.
Hand3. Easy fold.

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