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Wooderson
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07-11-2007, 02:48 AM
Post subject: .5/1NL: TPTK, raised at the turn
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Too passive?
Stage #698559336: Holdem No Limit $1 - 2007-07-04 02:31:59 (ET)
Table: BROWNING DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - WOODERSON316 ($68.45 in chips)
Seat 4 - DCDARKO ($59.60 in chips)
Seat 5 - COLBEAGLE ($197.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - B000 ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 7 - MIDNIGHT2345 ($362.67 in chips)
Seat 8 - 1ROCKY1 ($30 in chips)
Seat 9 - ZACH1123 ($31.25 in chips)
Seat 1 - VSEMSTAT ($93 in chips)
Seat 2 - KKISM300 ($215.05 in chips)
DCDARKO - Posts small blind $0.50
COLBEAGLE - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to WOODERSON316 [Ad Kd]
B000 - Folds
MIDNIGHT2345 - Folds
1ROCKY1 - Calls $1
ZACH1123 - Folds
VSEMSTAT - Folds
KKISM300 - Folds
WOODERSON316 - Raises $5 to $5
DCDARKO - Folds
COLBEAGLE - Calls $4
1ROCKY1 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [2s As 5h]
COLBEAGLE - Checks
WOODERSON316 - Bets $6
COLBEAGLE - Raises $16 to $16
WOODERSON316 - Calls $10
*** TURN *** [2s As 5h] [Jc]
COLBEAGLE - Bets $25
WOODERSON316 - Folds
COLBEAGLE - returned ($25) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
COLBEAGLE - Does not show
COLBEAGLE Collects $40.85 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($43.50) | Rake ($2.15) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [2s As 5h Jc]
Seat 1: VSEMSTAT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: KKISM300 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: WOODERSON316 (dealer) Folded on the TURN
Seat 4: DCDARKO (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: COLBEAGLE (big blind) collected Total ($40.85) HI $40.85) [Does not show]
Seat 6: B000 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MIDNIGHT2345 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: 1ROCKY1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: ZACH1123 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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BankItDrew
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I think that was pretty passive. Maybe try and 3 bet the flop.
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PapalRage
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Any non min 3 bet on the flop might as well be a push because over 2/3rds of hero's stack would be committed. I think that since we probably dont get called by anything we beat on the flop, calling and pushing over the turn bet could be best to maximize profit against worse hands. Depending on reads it is either a fold or push on the turn but i dont think 3-betting the flop is the best play.
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ndultimate.
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Wooderson
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Both of these are very helpful. Thanks.
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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jimmy44
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I agree that 3 betting here on the flop is committing ourselves to the pot.
On the turn, isn't this a fold most of the time? Most of the time he'll be showing you 2 pairs or better and sometimes (depends on opp) a flush draw.
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Da GOAT
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i shove flop
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Penfold
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it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?
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Fnord
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68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.
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Wooderson
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Originally Posted by Penfold
it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?
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Not really. Like everyone else at Absolute he tends to limp a lot.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.
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What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?
Thanks guys.
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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Warpe
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Quote:
DCDARKO - Posts small blind $0.50
COLBEAGLE - Posts big blind $1
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this ain't no 1/2 hand, just deep stacks
regardless, felt it
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Wooderson
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So it sounds like the concensus is to re-raise and 3-bet the flop raise, but due to stack size that means push over the top. Correct?
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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euphoricism
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A) reload
B) not folding
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Da GOAT
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Wooderson
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Originally Posted by Penfold
it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?
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Not really. Like everyone else at Absolute he tends to limp a lot.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.
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What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?
Thanks guys.
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68 deep is 68BBs ie its basically vs a shorty who could have a much larger range given that most shorties are just terrible players
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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wufwugy
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Use converter please.
http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
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Wooderson
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
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I would have, but it doesn't work for Absolute Poker NLHE. Click your link and see how it works.
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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wufwugy
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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1273906
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Wooderson
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
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Now that is sweet. I'm double retarded.
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I'd like to meet Jesus. Not because people claim he was the son of god, but because he could turn water into wine. A man like that is good to know, because you never know when you'll need a bottle of wine or an extra nail.
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Vrax
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Originally Posted by Wooderson
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Originally Posted by Fnord
68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.
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What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?
Thanks guys.
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You have initial $68BB's in stack and you are covered OR villain has 68BB and you have him covered = 68 deep
If blinds were 0.25/0.50, then you'd be 136 deep. You'd have more money behind and tougher decision to make.
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