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Old 06-21-2010, 08:59 AM     Post subject: 400nl - what have I got myself into.. #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain 1 who I am deep with is an aggro crazy fish running 47/34 with 100% barreling on all streets. The following is the hand played right before the one in question:


$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($440.50)
UTG+1 ($400)
MP ($400)
CO ($1,171.15)
Hero ($416)
SB ($485)
BB ($401)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 7 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $10, 1 fold, CO raises to $16, Hero raises to $60, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $44

Flop: ($136, 2 players)
CO bets $12, Hero raises to $112, CO calls $100

Turn: ($360, 2 players)
CO bets $72, Hero goes all-in $244, CO calls $172

River: ($848, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $848
CO shows high card Ace

Hero shows a pair of Aces


Hero wins $845 (net +$429)

CO lost $416
UTG+1 lost $10


Okay so he donk leads really tiny after flatting a large 4bet oop with A4o and proceeds to b/c down with air. Standard.

Now in this hand he leads a bit bigger...somehow I talked myself into just calling to keep all of his air in on the turn so he could barrel off/hopefully catch a real piece and then I could raise his turn lead and fire most rivers. But for some reason (wtf?) even after the last hand I just flat. Regardless, something interesting happens. Villain who raises the flop is a 14/11 regular at these stakes who plays a bit tricky/aggro (from argentina fwiw) so I think he's capable of raising for value here with AT/AJ/AQ (although he probably squeezes these hands a decent amount due to the fish so he's really only repping A4s, A9s, 99, 44 for value hands) since my hand is soooo underrepped and he could have a ton of fd's (he is spazzy so he's raising them regardless of not having much FE vs the whale) since he flats alot of suited crap IP...we do block nfd though but have outs vs A9s/A4s.
The fish could be on massive tilt right now given the last hand played so I'm totally lost on what to consider his range to be. He re-raised really fast fwiw...so I think that would be a sign of him tilting hard no? I'm really confused here :/

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($400)
UTG+1 ($400)
MP1 ($775.05)
Hero ($845)
CO ($483)
BTN ($395)
SB ($400)
BB ($440.50)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 8 players) Hero is MP2
2 folds, MP1 calls $4, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, BTN calls $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12, MP1 calls $12

Flop: ($66, 4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $32, Hero calls $32, BTN raises to $100, BB folds, MP1 raises to $336, $304 to Hero ($797)?
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:45 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 This is funny. I looked at the hand during breakfast and I got everything wrong. at first I thought fish had 100bb and btn was deep and I thought it was and easy fold. The way it is I think it's lol shipadoodles and I don't think it's close. Assuming that megafish will call with any pair and flushdraws. You got such a massive amount of equity against him that I think that even if btn never has worse than AK it's still a ship (edit: it is... close tho).
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 This is one of those times where I don't mind stacking off against button with TPTK.

Can't be concerned with whale.


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 I mean if he`s such a big fish - raise his flop lead yourself? i`d be happy getting it all in against him on the flop with this hand, if BU 3Bs or cold calls behind your flop raise, you can put no more money into the pot since he always has 2p+. As played i`dk - he ain`t raising FD or any semibluff/bluffs in 3 way pot with fish leading out and you flatting, so it`s the quiestion of whether or not hes capable of raising worse for value, AQ/AJ? You should know better since you were at the table
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:17 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 I thought about it more and I would think the button would mostly just flat his non nut draws (we block the nfd fwiw) since he's getting a great price and would think he has little FE vs the fish? Whether or not he is thinking that rationally is another topic I suppose I mean the guy is pretty much retarded imo not sure what experience you (deanglow) have with him in such spots...lancelott if you're lancelott on stars you probably have played with him at 100s
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:53 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 I don't think BTN is raising flushdraws at all. But he's from Argentina so what do I know.
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 We have the Kh so he doesnt have a fd. That said im still jamming.
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