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TerryToma

09-21-2006, 01:30 AM Post subject: 4 Big Hands from Today.

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Hand 1)

Opponent seems weak/tight

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Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $99.00
UTG+1: $37.80
MP1: $59.00
MP2: $87.50
MP3: $271.35
CO: $36.90
Button: $145.90
SB: $93.30
TerryToma: $146.90

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is BB with 4

UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $2, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, TerryToma calls, UTG calls.

Flop: J

($8.5, 4 players)
TerryToma checks, UTG bets $4, MP1 folds, Button calls, TerryToma raises to $10, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: 4

($32.5, 2 players)
TerryToma ...

Hand 2)
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Blinds: $1/$1
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $6.00
UTG+2: $251.75
TerryToma: $97.00
MP2: $167.30
MP3: $104.20
CO: $75.10
Button: $129.75
SB: $119.30
BB: $82.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is MP1 with 7

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, TerryToma calls, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls all-in $5, UTG+2 calls, TerryToma calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 6

($26, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $26)
UTG+2 bets $12, TerryToma calls, MP3 raises to $74, UTG+2 folds, TerryToma...

Hand 3)
Opponent sees lots of flops, only 7 hands with so far.
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $108.90
TerryToma: $151.50
UTG+2: $85.90
MP1: $98.00
MP2: $183.00
MP3: $80.90
CO: $142.10
Button: $59.00
SB: $54.30
BB: $65.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is UTG+1 with A

UTG folds, TerryToma raises to $4, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q

($13, 3 players)
SB bets $10, TerryToma calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: 5

($33, 2 players)
SB bets $5, TerryToma calls.

River: T

($43, 2 players)
SB bets $5, TerryToma ...

Hand 4)
Opponent is an uber-nit.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $134.00
UTG+1: $21.25
UTG+2: $97.50
MP1: $144.65
TerryToma A

: $100.00
MP3: $86.50
CO: $167.00
Button: $150.20
SB: $98.10
BB: $148.10

Pre-flop: (10 players)
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4, MP1 folds, TerryToma calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: Q

($13.5, 3 players)
UTG+2 checks, TerryToma bets $9, CO folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: 8

($31.5, 2 players)
UTG+2 checks, TerryTomachecks.

River: K

($31.5, 2 players)
UTG+2 checks, [color=#cc0000]TerryToma bets ...

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vegascoop

09-21-2006, 03:28 AM

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1- Check the turn. Maybe induce a bluff from a weak hand or draw. If he takes a free one, maybe he'll hit the flush. Lead river big.

2- Call. Lot of money in the pot and getting 2 to 1. If he's got TT, JJ, QQ, AA, then your barely an underdog. If he has nut flush draw, your ahead.

3- Raise turn. Call river. The river helps more than hurts IMO but I'm not sure about value raising the river there against potentially loose op. I need help on these.

4- Pot. I don't think he's calling anything here but just on the off chance he's slowplaying also. KQ would be nice.

ripjohngotti

09-21-2006, 03:39 AM

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1. Refer Vegas

2. Do you like 50/50 Situations, I have no money in the pot. Id probably opt to fold this, id wait for a better spot. If i was the one pushing here it would of been better.

3. Raises flop, where are you at ? Why wait until turn to find out?

4. Bet turn. Why give him a free Card, what if he holds AJ QJ these guys call with anything.

30%

Still looking for my royal flush.

TerryToma

09-21-2006, 03:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

2.. your right i usually hate 50/50 situations but i think calling a 2:1 pot odds will make it ok

3. i dont like to reopen betting against a lagg like this, there is a good chance im behind but i like to see what he does on the turn first.

4. he was an ubernit, i had him on a high pp, i was thinking he wanted to c/r turn with his set.

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ripjohngotti

09-21-2006, 04:13 AM

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2. On hand 2 you have nothing invested in the pot.

4. keep it simple dont try to outthink these guys, they dont see past there hand, ur gonna get urself into so much more tricky situations thinking like that.

30%

Still looking for my royal flush.

zook

09-21-2006, 04:25 AM

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1. I'm not even calling a minraise with 54o from the BB. Otherwise, I'm with vegas.

2. Very close. I think I'm calling though.

3. I don't mind the flop call, but definitely raise the weaksauce turn bet. Don't let him price his draw. As played I raise the river to $20.

4. I bet $20 on the turn. As played, $20 on the river.

TerryToma

09-21-2006, 05:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

in this case ubernit=raises less than 2% of hands preflop. this is the first or second hand he raised all night.

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09-21-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zook

hand 1. you dont call connectors with multiway pots for 1 more bb?? thats pretty weak. i win a lot of $$ that way.

2. yeah i went over this with my friend and we got 14 outs if we put the guy on overpair, so 52% to win if they are all live

3. i dont like to reopen betting when it looks like there is a chance i might be beat, and not many worse hands are calling.. with the blocking bet on turn i was a bit worried about flush. however being a backdoor flush i should be so worried, i was more paranoid than anything.

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zook

09-21-2006, 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

hand 1. you dont call connectors with multiway pots for 1 more bb?? thats pretty weak. i win a lot of $$ that way.

Not OOP. Even if you do get a draw you're going to have to pay for it. I'd be shocked if limping or cold-calling with low connectors is a winning play for you from EP.

TerryToma

09-21-2006, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by zook

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

hand 1. you dont call connectors with multiway pots for 1 more bb?? thats pretty weak. i win a lot of $$ that way.

Not OOP. Even if you do get a draw you're going to have to pay for it. I'd be shocked if limping or cold-calling with low connectors is a winning play for you from EP.

well yes you can flop a draw. but many times i flop 2 pr or trips or str8. i think its worth 1 bb.

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zook

09-21-2006, 06:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

well yes you can flop a draw. but many times i flop 2 pr or trips or str8. i think its worth 1 bb.

In position, I'm with you, but OOP I'll agree to disagree

vegascoop

09-21-2006, 06:19 AM

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How'd hand 4 turn out? If he's that nitty, what do you beat that raises EP PF and c/c on the flop except QQ? Maybe your just building rake

, but why would AK play so slow? He can't have KK so do you put him on exactly AA here and check behind?

EDIT: the suspense must be killing me. Since your post says bets???...
I guess that means you didn't check behind.

TerryToma

09-21-2006, 11:54 AM

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i bet 32$. he called, and mucked. pokerroom skins now dont show mucked hands in hh's. you tell me what he had. i guess qq.

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zook

09-21-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryToma

i bet 32$. he called, and mucked. pokerroom skins now dont show mucked hands in hh's. you tell me what he had. i guess qq.

QQ is the only thing that makes sense from an uber-nit. I can't believe he checked all three streets with a set though. Especially the river.

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09-21-2006, 05:00 PM

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you have to bet the turn in hand 1, bet like half pot, but also raise more on the flop next time. MAKE BIG POTS WHEN YOU HAVE BIG HANDS.

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09-21-2006, 05:12 PM

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Hand 1: $20; push a heart river, otherwise $30-$40ish.
Hand 2: May as well just call again. You can't fold and I don't think UTG folds a hand you want him to fold often enough if you push.
Hand 3: Raise to $20, cry if he re-raises.
Hand 4: Tempted to push, otherwise $20 is fine. Just concerned that he's ghey enough to call here with QQ.

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TerryToma

09-21-2006, 05:21 PM

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ok heres the results..

hand 1. i c/rd turn, he bet 10$ i reraised to 40, he called. and i pushed a blank river, he called and mucked. dont know what he had. what do u think he had given that info? overpair?

hand 2. i called, pushed a blank turn, he called and i got there on the river with another spade. the smallstack actually had QJs so he took a small sidepot. The big flop raiser had AA

hand 3. i called like a wuss, he had K3o

hand 4. i bet 32$ on river, he called and mucked. im guessing QQ.

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Fnord

09-21-2006, 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

hand 1. i c/rd turn

lol, wow he sucks if he called that down with Jx.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryToma

hand 3. i called like a wuss, he had K3o

That betting pattern from badish players is easy money. Not sure on this board, but on a lot of slightly less scary boards they'll bet it weak and call off absurd amounts of money.

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