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35s from SB flopped flush, how do u play this?

  
 
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apunisher
Old 06-10-2006, 07:01 PM     Post subject: 35s from SB flopped flush, how do u play this? #1 (permalink)  
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$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 10, 14:58:10 ET 2006
Table Table 99063 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: Goosey ( $55.45 )
Seat 5: cairo666 ( $42.50 )
Seat 6: AATrain01 ( $46.90 )
Seat 9: semaj1988 ( $85.25 )
Seat 2: bukhar ( $51.70 )
Seat 8: VictorDrazen ( $47.75 )
Seat 7: rsr055 ( $53.05 )
Seat 4: AceRag69 ( $50 )
Seat 10: cincin ( $50 )
AATrain01 posts small blind [$0.25].
rsr055 posts big blind [$0.50].
AceRag69 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AATrain01 [ 3s 5s ]
VictorDrazen folds.
semaj1988 folds.
bukhar folds.
Goosey calls [$0.50].
AceRag69 checks.
cairo666 folds.
>You have options at Table 100203 (No DP) Table!.
AATrain01 calls [$0.25].
rsr055 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, As, Js ]
>You have options at Table 95780 Table!.
AATrain01 bets [$1.75].
rsr055 calls [$1.75].
>You have options at Table 99023 Table!.
Goosey folds.
AceRag69 raises [$4].
AATrain01 raises [$6.25].
rsr055 calls [$6.25].
AceRag69 calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
>You have options at Table 95780 Table!.
AATrain01 checks.
>You have options at Table 95780 Table!.
rsr055 checks.
AceRag69 bets [$20].
>You have options at Table 100203 (No DP) Table!.
AATrain01 is all-In [$38.40]
rsr055 folds.
>You have options at Table 99023 Table!.
AceRag69 folds.
AATrain01 does not show cards.
AATrain01 wins $81.40
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:32 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Why push the river? The only hands that call you beat you.

All the rest are fine. I play these pretty fast, to ruin the odds of the K drawing to the flush. You can just value bet this and hope the 4th spade doesn't come.
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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when he raises to $4 im making it a hell of a lot more because its all going in on the turn anyway. If your beat your beat, its a tough laydown outta the sb/bb but get a lot of money in while you seem to be ahead imo
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:38 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Why push the river? The only hands that call you beat you.

All the rest are fine. I play these pretty fast, to ruin the odds of the K drawing to the flush. You can just value bet this and hope the 4th spade doesn't come.
i wanted it ai anyway on the turn, so i gave him a chance to bet a worse hand, like ak, aq, a10
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:03 PM #5 (permalink)  
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MP1 ($51.70)
MP2 ($55.45)
CO ($50)
Button ($42.50)
Hero ($46.90)
BB ($53.05)
UTG ($47.75)
UTG+1 ($85.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 5. CO posts a blind of $0.50. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 2, A, J (4 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75, MP2 folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6.25, CO calls $4.

Turn: ($26) A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $20, Hero is all-in $38.40, BB folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $81.40

Your raise is awfully small on the flop, Id make it probably $12 to go. On the turn Im not really sure what I think. You have the lowest flush possible, so any flush that calls is ahead, something like AJ is ahead, but You beat AQ, AK, any random ace that doesnt make a boat. I want to get my money in on the turn, I just dont know what the best way to do it is. If you check and he checks behind how do you play it if the river brings 4 to a flush? Or another A, or a J? I think a bigger flop raise would let you push the turn, that would most likely be the least awkward way to get the money in.
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($51.70)
MP2 ($55.45)
CO ($50)
Button ($42.50)
Hero ($46.90)
BB ($53.05)
UTG ($47.75)
UTG+1 ($85.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 5. CO posts a blind of $0.50. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 2, A, J (4 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.75, MP2 folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $6.25, CO calls $4.

Turn: ($26) A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $20, Hero is all-in $38.40, BB folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $81.40

Your raise is awfully small on the flop, Id make it probably $12 to go. On the turn Im not really sure what I think. You have the lowest flush possible, so any flush that calls is ahead, something like AJ is ahead, but You beat AQ, AK, any random ace that doesnt make a boat. I want to get my money in on the turn, I just dont know what the best way to do it is. If you check and he checks behind how do you play it if the river brings 4 to a flush? Or another A, or a J? I think a bigger flop raise would let you push the turn, that would most likely be the least awkward way to get the money in.
$15 or so imo, then it goes all in on the turn with pot size anyway, however gives opp a possible way to get off a worse hand sometimes, if theyre good enough of course
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Old 06-10-2006, 09:36 PM #7 (permalink)  
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$15 or so imo, then it goes all in on the turn with pot size anyway, however gives opp a possible way to get off a worse hand sometimes, if theyre good enough of course
Yea, when I looked at it closer I thought $15ish looked like a good raise. It could also fold out some bigger, but still small, flushes, albeit unlikely.
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Old 06-10-2006, 10:47 PM #8 (permalink)  
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$15 or so imo, then it goes all in on the turn with pot size anyway, however gives opp a possible way to get off a worse hand sometimes, if theyre good enough of course
Yea, when I looked at it closer I thought $15ish looked like a good raise. It could also fold out some bigger, but still small, flushes, albeit unlikely.
if we dont lose a stack to a higher flush here we didnt play it right imo. Bad players call here with a lot however.
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Old 06-10-2006, 11:17 PM     Post subject: Re: 35s from SB flopped flush, how do u play this? #9 (permalink)  
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** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, As, Js ]
>You have options at Table 95780 Table!.
AATrain01 bets [$1.75].
rsr055 calls [$1.75].
>You have options at Table 99023 Table!.
Goosey folds.
AceRag69 raises [$4].
AATrain01 raises [$6.25].
rsr055 calls [$6.25].
AceRag69 calls [$4].
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