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TerryToma
Old 09-01-2006, 05:32 AM     Post subject: 3 big hands of the night WWYD? #1 (permalink)  
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******* Hand 1 ********
Opponent was 81/35. People were going nuts in chat about this hand. Rooting for me to call, cuz he was owning the table. I had pretty much stayed out of his way prior to this hand.


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Stack sizes:
UTG: $55.40
UTG+1: $52.50
UTG+2: $129.85
MP1: $44.50
MP2: $55.20
MP3: $39.50
TerryToma: $101.05
Button: $10.05
SB: $50.10
BB: $49.75

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is CO with A 6
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, TerryToma calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: 9 5 J ($2.75, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $3, MP1 folds, TerryToma calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 9 ($8.75, 2 players)
UTG+2 bets $8, TerryToma .....


******* Hand 2 ********
Man, something about 66 is killing me. It has been one of my biggest losers. Opponent was 56/22. Looks like i had fancy play syndrome on this hand, also did my best donk impression.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.10
TerryToma: $65.80
UTG+2: $51.55
MP1: $26.40
MP2: $66.85
MP3: $5.75
CO: $62.50
Button: $19.40
SB: $49.35
BB: $48.85

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is UTG+1 with 6 6
UTG folds, TerryToma raises to $2, UTG+2 calls, 6 folds, BB calls.

Flop: A 4 7 ($6.5, 3 players)
BB checks, TerryToma bets $4, UTG+2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: Q ($14.5, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, UTG+2 bets $4, TerryToma raises to $8, UTG+2 raises to $12, TerryToma calls.

River: 4 ($38.5, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, UTG+2 bets $5, TerryToma...?


******* Hand 3 ********
Villain 27/7

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $48.75
UTG+1: $39.35
UTG+2: $48.00
TerryToma: $49.75
MP2: $14.10
MP3: $4.00
CO: $41.25
Button: $109.10
SB: $65.85
BB: $49.80

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is MP1 with J A
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, TerryToma raises to $2.5, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8 K 9 ($8.75, 3 players)
TerryToma bets $5, CO folds, Button raises to $10, TerryToma calls.

Turn: A ($28.75, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, Button bets $10, TerryToma calls.

River: 4 ($48.75, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, Button bets $10, TerryToma ...?
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:56 AM #2 (permalink)  
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#1 - How aggressive is villain post-flop? Does he bet everything or slowplay monsters? I'd raise turn.
#2 - I usually don't c-bet here. Even though it's a good flop to c-bet your OOP multi-way and that's not the best spot for c-betting. The turn is not really a scary card so what are you trying to represent by your WEAK CHECK-MINRAISE? What do you put villain on? Why call the 3-bet? The river makes me laugh after how you played the hand - either call and look like a donk or fold and look like a donk lol. Maybe call just to see what his cards are and take note.
#3 - OOP multi-way = not great spot for c-betting. You must call the river bet.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:09 AM #3 (permalink)  
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#1 - How aggressive is villain post-flop? Does he bet everything or slowplay monsters? I'd raise turn.
to be honest i hadnt paid that much attention to him prior to this hand, just realized that he was so laggy based on his stats, and the people in chat were going nuts.

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#2 - I usually don't c-bet here. Even though it's a good flop to c-bet your OOP multi-way and that's not the best spot for c-betting. The turn is not really a scary card so what are you trying to represent by your WEAK CHECK-MINRAISE? What do you put villain on? Why call the 3-bet? The river makes me laugh after how you played the hand - either call and look like a donk or fold and look like a donk lol. Maybe call just to see what his cards are and take note.
exactly. worst hand i have played in a month. i didnt give the villain credit for anything.. i still thought i had the best hand believe it or not (at least the point where i min c/r'd).. once he 3 bet the turn i thought i was beat for sure..

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#3 - OOP multi-way = not great spot for c-betting. You must call the river bet.
u dont like c-betting a nut flush draw?? its one of my most common moves. first i can win the pot right there, otherwise weaker draws, call, it builds the pot, and it works as a blocking bet all in one. i almost always bet my nut flush draws. i almost never run into anyone who bets more than a minraise, so i wasnt worried about being raised out of the flop.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:17 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i almost never run into anyone who bets more than a minraise, so i wasnt worried about being raised out of the flop.
this is true. i can see a case for betting and not betting really. generally it's better to play draws aggressively and build a pot while in position, but either way is fine with me.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i almost never run into anyone who bets more than a minraise, so i wasnt worried about being raised out of the flop.
this is true. i can see a case for betting and not betting really. generally it's better to play draws aggressively and build a pot while in position, but either way is fine with me.
c/c that flop and im on an obvious draw, no? i doubt i get a stack if another diamond hits. diamond on turn c/r trickery might net a stack.
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c/c that flop and im on an obvious draw, no? i doubt i get a stack if another diamond hits. diamond on turn c/r trickery might net a stack.
ya i've been messin around lately with just betting my draws whether in position or not. i don't really know which i prefer yet.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:27 AM #7 (permalink)  
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c/c that flop and im on an obvious draw, no? i doubt i get a stack if another diamond hits. diamond on turn c/r trickery might net a stack.
ya i've been messin around lately with just betting my draws whether in position or not. i don't really know which i prefer yet.
let me know what u find out, its quite possibly a leak of mine.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:38 AM #8 (permalink)  
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let me know what u find out, its quite possibly a leak of mine.
will do
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Old 09-01-2006, 02:29 PM #9 (permalink)  
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1st hand raise
2nd wth fold to turn bet
3rd u gotta call but that turn looks passive, dont have the stats, but i'm pretty sure i'd raise against most players.
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Old 09-01-2006, 06:20 PM #10 (permalink)  
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1. I raise the flop here. As played I think I think I raise the turn to $25 or so, stacks are deep and I'm not giving an 81/35 laggtard credit for a FH here. To get to 35% PFR he has to be raising all PPs.

2. This is spew. I don't always c-bet this flop, but I don't mind that as much as the turn c/r. Lead if he's weak tight, but from his pre-flop numbers I'm guessing he's not. c/f is best.

3. I don't always c-bet this flop, it's already a big pot and it's no fun playing big pots with draws oop. As played I push over the button min-raise. As played I'm probably calling the turn and river bets.
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