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Old 09-27-2006, 03:17 AM     Post subject: 2nd nuts vs. FTR member's All-in #1 (permalink)  
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.75
UTG+1: $23.70
MP1: $28.70
MP2: $19.50
CO: $25.50
Hero: $193.10
SB: $5.25
BB: $45.50

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with A 7
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 8 3 8 ($0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8 ($0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls, MP2 folds.

River: A ($2.35, 2 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises all-in $44.5, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $43 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $5.35

Villian is 21.6/11.6/6.6 over 310 hands. We are talking on MSN. I recently had a gutshot straight flush draw and two overs which missed, and I bet 3/4 pot on river, took it down and showed. Another hand he bet/3-bet me with 2nd pair on the flop. I've been playing really loose against him too.

He still hasn't told me a straight answer on what he had. First he said he had 33 and was pissed when the turn came, then he said he had quads and it was a good fold, then he said he had the A and it was a split. I have a feeling he was bluffing, but the pot odds was horribly bad and the rake on a split would of been huge.

Effective stacksize was about 180BB, pot was 20BB

What do you do?

[Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts. At first I discounted it because of the play preflop and on the flop. But thinking about it now, I have seen him check his option in the Big Blind with AA.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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This is an easy fold since you can't win.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:54 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't think I even raise the river. You're risking the pot to milk him for nothing in a small pot you figure to at least split.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:45 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 correct, no reason to reopen the action unless you have a crazy history with opponent which leads you to believe there is additional value
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:19 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.

The main reason I folded was because it was 43 dollars, freaking 172BB. If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:31 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I pulled an anchorman and immeadiately regretted my decision after the minraise.
The bets looked so much smaller just reading the hh's

I fold too, tell him not to spend his $2.5 in one shop
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:50 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:07 PM #8 (permalink)  
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let the mini pot go and get him another time - I often try to talk myself into some of these calls, only to find out they were slowplaying the entire time - Its a nothing pot and it's not worth calling, in any case -
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nice job, btw - huge stack for the game of that size -
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:58 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 BB was bluffing and only checks with AA preflop heads up.

Nice stack btw :P
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:07 AM #11 (permalink)  
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he has an 8
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:36 AM #12 (permalink)  
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he has an 8
and you have the 3rd nuts.
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If I could detach the monitary value from the chips, I might of found a call here, and I think I would of won.
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and you have the 3rd nuts.
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[Edit:] I forgot to mention AA, so i guess my hand is the 3rd nuts.
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 Nothing calls a river raise that you beat, unless they put you on a total bluff... Raising is bad here. Just call.

At a home game recently I had 78s with a flop of 7A7. I lead into an agg, yet 1st level, friend and he called, and I knew he had the A. Turn was a 7 and I lead again, he called. I checked the river knowing he would bet the A and wouldn't fold it, raised allin and he said he had to call. Bonzai.

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