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Old 04-08-2008, 03:13 AM     Post subject: 25NL - Overpair vs a flop minraise #1 (permalink)  

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Whats up. Full Ring hand on Bodog, can't convert hand but this should be good enough.

Hero (LP) $50
Villain (MP2) $25

Hero is dealt Kh Kd

folds, Villain limps, Hero raises to $1.50, LP2 calls, folds, Villain calls

Flop Qs6c3c (Pot: $4.85)

- Villain checks, Hero bets $4, LP2 folds, Villain minraises to $8, Hero calls $4

Turn 7s (Pot: $20.85)

Villain checks, Hero checks

River As (Pot: $20.85)

-Villain bets $6.25, Hero debates and calls.



So how would you have played this hand guys? How much does that minraise worry you? Would you ever fold the flop there? Would you check or bet the turn? Finally, would you be check-folding the river given the fairly good pot odds (6 into 20)?

Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:09 AM #2 (permalink)  
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vs a halfstack I'm getting it all in on the flop.

As played I think you have to call villain shows up with a bare Q here enough. Also, I think you need to raise more preflop, I would make it $2.5 - 4xBB +1 for limper.
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:30 PM #3 (permalink)  

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vs a halfstack I'm getting it all in on the flop.

As played I think you have to call villain shows up with a bare Q here enough. Also, I think you need to raise more preflop, I would make it $2.5 - 4xBB +1 for limper.
Hey Badgers, I appreciate you helping me out with this and my other hand I posted. If it makes a difference though, this is 25NL so villain was full stacked, and after he limped, I made it 6xbb ($1.50). Minraise turned out to be a big tell that I need to look out for in the future.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:14 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Its either a shove or fold on the flop given stack size. In low stake games, i'm leaning towards a shove cuz villian could minraise with lots of stuff like pair Q or flush combo draw. As played, you should definitely put him all-in on the turn cuz you were just pot committed after flat calling his minraise and his line smelt like weakness.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Ya after the flop c/r you are either going to get all in or you need to fold. I'd probably call raise and get it all in on the turn. There may be a chance he gets away from a pair of Q's if you just shove now. On the turn villain has less than a psb left so it'd be harder for him to get away.
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Badgers, villain had a full stack.

secondly, i think you played fine up until the turn. I find that villains line of: c/r flop check turn is usually weak. Ergo, I'm betting turn hard and looking to push the rest in on river. Assume villain has top pair.


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Sorry i thought it was 50nl for some reason. ^^What they said
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